Thread: Help with setting a bevel

I have been working on a few razors, One i had to bread knife and the other came off a buffer. They bot seem to be taking for ever to set a bevel. I am using a coarse DMT and norton 220/1000. Tried up and down, X, and circles. What am i doing wrong and is there a faster way?

Add one or two layers of tape to preset the bevel, then remove the tape.
this should speed up the process.

Throw some black marker on the edge and make sure you're making good contact from point to heel. When you breadknife a razor plan on playing hell getting a bevel back on it. I do circles, then some X and back and forth strokes, then circles again. Just keep at it and check with TNT and magnification as you go. Eventually it will get there.

When you're starting with blades that are breadknife dull, it just takes awhile.

A problem I had when I first started, and my bevels were taking FOREVER, was that I was actually overhoning the edge on low grits... First of all, which DMT are you using, and which of the sides on the 220/1000?

Also, have you fully and thoroughly lapped the 1000?

Do as Jimmy has suggested, and like Shaved zombie I would like some more info.

It takes about 10 minutes on a DMT 325 for a hollow grind Breadknifed razor to have a bevel reset...

STOP thinking of it as a razor to be honed, it isn't YET

You have to get the bevel to a knife sharp point, before you can think of it as a razor...


Look at these pics from the Colorado meet very close see the DMT and the razor I am working??? I just breadknifed a 1/8 chip out and I am reseting the bevel... Note that the spine is not on the hone I went from 45 degrees to 20 degrees to 3 layers of tape to 1 layer of tape before I started honing a Razor bevel on a Norton 1k it took me 10 minutes... I need to add this to the Wiki someday as it makes what I have in there now much, much, faster, and you lose less steel...

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Edge restoration and honing are two different things...Breadknifing a razor is not part of honing, it is for serious restorations and damage corrections.....

Originally Posted by gssixgun

It takes about 10 minutes on a DMT 325 for a hollow grind Breadknifed razor to have a bevel reset...

STOP thinking of it as a razor to be honed, it isn't YET

You have to get the bevel to a knife sharp point, before you can think of it as a razor...


Look at these pics from the Colorado meet very close see the DMT and the razor I am working??? I just breadknifed a 1/8 chip out and I am reseting the bevel... Note that the spine is not on the hone I went from 45 degrees to 20 degrees to 3 layers of tape to 1 layer of tape before I started honing a Razor bevel on a Norton 1k it took me 10 minutes... I need to add this to the Wiki someday as it makes what I have in there now much, much, faster, and you lose less steel...

post #43 http://straightrazorpalace.com/get-t...t-greet-2.html

Edge restoration and honing are two different things...Breadknifing a razor is not part of honing, it is for serious restorations and damage corrections.....

WOW! Great. I will have to try that. It makes a lot of sense. I have a coarse dmt and i was using the 220 side of my norton. I breadknifed it because of a chip. I have only honed 2 razors before. Nothing as serious as this one though. Also when i look at the edge i am seeing light reflected off the edge. So it has not come to a complete point yet.