Thread: setting bevel on a near wedge

This razor has me talking to myself. Of course it has no spine, its shaped like a peice of pizza. So i put 3 layers of tape on the spine and hit the 1k nani, and mind you this the 3rd time i have taken this razor out of the drawer to set the bevel.Iam getting nowhere with this one. I have a Hawcroft wedge that i use this method on an get great results. So what do you wedge guys do to hone your razors??????????

Originally Posted by nessmuck

This razor has me talking to myself. Of course it has no spine, its shaped like a peice of pizza. So i put 3 layers of tape on the spine and hit the 1k nani, and mind you this the 3rd time i have taken this razor out of the drawer to set the bevel.Iam getting nowhere with this one. I have a Hawcroft wedge that i use this method on an get great results. So what do you wedge guys do to hone your razors??????????

Make sure with that much tape that the edge is touching the stone. Not being too hollow, it does not take too much tape to fill up the hollow area making it hard to get at the edge.
Even under the best circumstances these grinds take a can long time. Be patient. You probably will need an aggresive hone or DMT to move metal faster if you don't already to set bevel.
Mike

What does the marker test tell you ?

When I hone wedges (assuming no edge repair is needed here) I put one layer of tape on the spine, start on a 1k stone and do rolling circles.

I do 40 circles a side then 10 X strokes and check to see if I can shave arm hair, if not I repeat theat 40+10 cycle. Once I can easily shave arm hair I do 10 more very light X strokes and move on to the next stone.

In terms of the stones I use, my go to hones are Naniwas in 1k, 3k, 8k and 12k but if I dont like the edge I get from those stones I'll swap over to Shaptons in 1k, 4k, 8k and 16k.

I seem to find that the Shaptons can be slightly faster cutting than the Naniwas in the lower grits. Not better, just faster cutting. I honed my W&B wedge on 1k and 4k Shapton then 8k and 12k Naniwa which worked very well. Its quite possible to set a bevel on a wedge with the Naniwa 1k though, so dont feel you have to get a plethora of other stones as well..!

Good luck and keep us posted!

Originally Posted by onimaru55

What does the marker test tell you ?

I forgot about using the marker test.Its telling me i got about 1 1/2 hours to go,I guess i will get this son of a gun after all. thanks

,,,I mean Nessmuk.


What is a "near wedge"
I must say I have never liked that term.
Sometimes we call a 1/4 grind a "near wedge" (or something else) even though the razor is clearly stamped "Wedge".
Others hold to the belief that some razors were manufactured with flat sides- who would go to that trouble when all grindstones were round?

Do you mean you have a severely worn wedge?

I have never asked but maybe one of our local smiths would regrind it for you- if its worth it- perhaps otherwise; scrap it. You know, these things can be used up for their intended purpose/design: even though there is still some core steel left. did I overlook the pic?

Originally Posted by kevint

,,,I mean Nessmuk.


What is a "near wedge"
I must say I have never liked that term.
Sometimes we call a 1/4 grind a "near wedge" (or something else) even though the razor is clearly stamped "Wedge".
Others hold to the belief that some razors were manufactured with flat sides- who would go to that trouble when all grindstones were round?

Do you mean you have a severely worn wedge?

I have never asked but maybe one of our local smiths would regrind it for you- if its worth it- perhaps otherwise; scrap it. You know, these things can be used up for their intended purpose/design: even though there is still some core steel left. did I overlook the pic?

You know when you have a peice of birthday cake, thats what the end of the blade looks like. So i put one layer of tape on the spine and i think i will set the bevel after i give my hand a rest.thanks George Washington Sears

Originally Posted by kevint

,,,I mean Nessmuk.


What is a "near wedge"
I must say I have never liked that term.
Sometimes we call a 1/4 grind a "near wedge" (or something else) even though the razor is clearly stamped "Wedge".
Others hold to the belief that some razors were manufactured with flat sides- who would go to that trouble when all grindstones were round?

Do you mean you have a severely worn wedge?

I have never asked but maybe one of our local smiths would regrind it for you- if its worth it- perhaps otherwise; scrap it. You know, these things can be used up for their intended purpose/design: even though there is still some core steel left. did I overlook the pic?

Definitions of grinds from Henckels and from SRP...

It will show the True wedge and the Near wedge and the 1/4 grind
and many others...


The straight razor - Straight Razor Place Wiki

I have actually only held 3 True vintage wedges in my hands, and yes the are truly dead flat, as in, if you hone them without lifting the spine you would scratch the sides...
I just got a Near wedge from one of our members today to work on, I could try for pics..