Thread: Dropping Down from the 1k on Bevel Set

Group,

I know time and patience will get you a bevel set on a 1k. However, I was wondering if and when would you say that moving down to maybe a 400 to start and then move back to the 1k would be better served.

I have been bevel setting on my Naniwa 1k. A couple of stubborn razors took about 10 sets of 40 heavy circles followed by 10 heavy X strokes before I could shave arm hair, pass the TPT and move on. I was thinking maybe 1 or 2 sets on a 400 and then maybe 1 or 2 sets on the 1k would have been more efficient.

Any thoughts? Thanks.

David

I normally will start out on a 220 when I can see visible rust in the edge or any type of chipping. I also start on the 220 when I have a razor with an uneven flattened spine. These are usually the razors that need a little more steel removed. Sometimes when I don't have a bevel I like after a couple sets of circles on the 1K, I'll drop down to the 500 for a set or two to see if that doesn't get the bevel corrected enough to move back to the 1K.

Have fun,

Lynn

If I find that I'm not setting the bevel quickly with the Naniwa Superstone 1k, I switch to either a Norton 1k or my new favorite, the Shapton Professional 1k. If I need something more aggressive, then I'll go to my quite worn DMT8C (325 grit) or the Naniwa Superstone 400 or even 220.

Lynn and Ron beat me hehehe



Thoughts

1. Yes you can drop lower or go to a different stone for hard/bad/restoration razors...

2. Slurry is not only for Coticules and J-Nats

http://straightrazorpalace.com/advanced-honing-topics/58310-art-slurry.html

3. The DMT 325 is a very versatile plate, it can flatten your hones & stones, it can make slurry, or it can rip steel very fast for problem bevels...

Thanks gentlemen. This was what I was thinking, but I was not sure how long to beat my head against the 1k before dropping down.

I now have a new trick to add to my bag of tricks.

David

I find if my 1k Naniwa wont do the job quickly I swap over to the 1k Shapton and that usually does it!

The 1k Naniwa seems to be a fairly soft stone and dishes out quite easily. Its also not as fast a cutter as the 1k Shapton.

I'm thinking about adding a few new stones to my bevel setting range: The 1200 DMT and the 500 grit Shapton on glass. I know we all like our J-Nats and Eschers, but having a few good bevel setters really helps as well!

Originally Posted by Stubear

I know we all like our J-Nats and Eschers, but having a few good bevel setters really helps as well!

Agreed. All the attention goes to the high polishers when most of the critical work is done on the lower end. I borrowed Jimmy's Shapton Professionals last year and liked the way they felt but got somewhat inconsistent results with them. Regardless, I really liked how well the 1k worked as an aggressive, hard, non-loading bevel setter so I got my 4th 1k hone.

Originally Posted by Stubear

I find if my 1k Naniwa wont do the job quickly I swap over to the 1k Shapton and that usually does it!

The 1k Naniwa seems to be a fairly soft stone and dishes out quite easily. Its also not as fast a cutter as the 1k Shapton.

I'm thinking about adding a few new stones to my bevel setting range: The 1200 DMT and the 500 grit Shapton on glass. I know we all like our J-Nats and Eschers, but having a few good bevel setters really helps as well!

Originally Posted by Utopian

Agreed. All the attention goes to the high polishers when most of the critical work is done on the lower end. I borrowed Jimmy's Shapton Professionals last year and liked the way they felt but got somewhat inconsistent results with them. Regardless, I really liked how well the 1k worked as an aggressive, hard, non-loading bevel setter so I got my 4th 1k hone.

Oh I love it !!!!!!

You know, I believe we had a discussion on this a few times

http://straightrazorpalace.com/advan...ant-stone.html

I finally realized I was moving off of the 1k to the higher grits BEFORE I was actually getting the bevel set. What I was doing worked great for garden variety honing.

I should paste this on my wall....

Thou Shalt Not Leave Bevel Set Until The Bevel is Set - Whatever That Takes!