QUESTION ON PUMA

[Grizzley1]

I have a puma that shaves arm hair and passes the HHT,however,it doesn't give a really smooth shave.Ive given it about 15 laps on a carborundum pasted silk strop and about 30 on clean silk,then 70 on leather.
Its not a bad shave ,but something is missing.I'm not familiar with Pumas,and this was a gift. Can anyone help??

[hi_bud_gl]

I have a puma that shaves arm hair and passes the HHT,however,it doesn't give a really smooth shave.Ive given it about 15 laps on a carborundum pasted silk strop and about 30 on clean silk,then 70 on leather.
Its not a bad shave ,but something is missing.I'm not familiar with Pumas,and this was a gift. Can anyone help??

what is carborundum pasted silk strop?
what hones do you have ?

[Grizzley1]

what is carborundum pasted silk strop?
what hones do you have ?

The carborundum is silicone oxide,its from a very old box and that's what they called it back then,or so I'm told.I have a set of Nortons,325,1000,4000,8000.and a BBW&coticul bout.the pasted strop is just s silk strop with this stuff on it,the directions had me heat it up slightly and rub it on .I used the x patteren,and it works pretty well on everything Ive tried so far.So what now??

[JimmyHAD]

The old Puma razors were second to none IME. Is this a vintage razor or of recent production ?

[Grizzley1]

I dont know Ill take a picture,I just read your thread jimmy,and it said that swatys were carburundum
Sorry about the picture quality,I was in a hurry

[hi_bud_gl]

The carborundum is chromium oxide,its from a very old box and that's what they called it back then,or so I'm told.I have a set of Nortons,325,1000,4000,8000.and a BBW&coticul bout.the pasted strop is just s silk strop with this stuff on it,the directions had me heat it up slightly and rub it on ..I used the x patteren,and it works pretty well on everything Ive tried so far.So what now??

ok go back to 8k and stay on it until you pass this test. your arm hairs will fall of as soon as blade touches them.
please note i did not say they- hairs will jump as soon as blade touches them. if they do then your blade is not sharp enough to move next step .
now your strokes should be only wait of the blade.
numbers doesn't matter as long as you are not too aggressive by putting pressure to the blade.
when you got hairs fall off --( see below first)move to coticule( lets pray it is fine coticule and you can use to put final edge to the stone.)
make 50 with slurry and 50 without slurry.
strop and shave test .
I would say will better if you shave test after 8k and see where are you at in sharpness then coticule 50/50 and shave test.
if your coticule shave test is worse then Norton 8k say good buy (or use it as a lower grit stone not as finisher)to your coticule.
hope this helps.

[JimmyHAD]

From the photos it looks like a vintage blade to me ..... IOW, a good one. If you feel competent to handle what Sham (hi_bud_gl) suggests do so. If not maybe send it to a honemeister. Sham is one of 'em.

[Grizzley1]

ok go back to 8k and stay on it until you pass this test. your arm hairs will fall of as soon as blade touches them.
please note i did not say they- hairs will jump as soon as blade touches them. if they do then your blade is not sharp enough to move next step .
now your strokes should be only wait of the blade.
numbers doesn't matter as long as you are not too aggressive by putting pressure to the blade.
when you got hairs fall off --( see below first)move to coticule( lets pray it is fine coticule and you can use to put final edge to the stone.)
make 50 with slurry and 50 without slurry.
strop and shave test .
I would say will better if you shave test after 8k and see where are you at in sharpness then coticule 50/50 and shave test.
if your coticule shave test is worse then Norton 8k say good buy (or use it as a lower grit stone not as finisher)to your coticule.
hope this helps.

Thanks,I think I know what you mean,try shaving after it passes the test with the 8000
and then try the coti,correct?
The coti is very nice,I got it from one of the vendors at the coticule voult,its about a 5 inch by 3 and a half bout
thanks
Griz

[Grizzley1]

From the photos it looks like a vintage blade to me ..... IOW, a good one. If you feel competent to handle what Sham (hi_bud_gl) suggests do so. If not maybe send it to a honemeister. Sham is one of 'em.

Thanks Jimmy,I don't think I'm a hone mister yet,but I would be safe in saying I'm a talented amature,just need practice and guidance
Thanks
Griz

[hi_bud_gl]

Thanks,I think I know what you mean,try shaving after it passes the test with the 8000
and then try the coti,correct?
The coti is very nice,I got it from one of the vendors at the coticule voult,its about a 5 inch by 3 and a half bout
thanks
Griz

yes that is correct.
Try and let us know how is your progression.gl