I have a Dovo Bismarck that was supposed to be made shave ready by the individual I bought it from. It was NOT shave ready. I made a few passes on my Nani 12k and it's better, but I'm going to have to break down and put it through the 4k/8k pyramid. I've never done that before, but I guess I'm about to learn. The pivot pin is a little loose too and I've tried 100 light taps with the ball peen, but it's still loose. These are considered shoulderless right? I really like the feel of the blade, I hope I can make shave ready.