Thread: A silverwing problem

I have a Silverwing that was shaving nicely right out of the box. this lasted about 9 months,last week the shave wasnt as smooth as it should have been. I used a Barber hone and strop on it and its just not as smooth as it used to be. Does this mean a resetting of the bevel,and a run through the stones? I have never had this problem before,and my work has been checked by one of our honemisters,so I know its not my methods,but could this be harder steel than my other blades?
I would rather not start from the beginning if possable,any sugestions?

I would try a finishing stone first. If it seems to need more I would drop down one grit level and go back up to the finisher. I wouldn't start with a bevel setter unless it came to be absolutely necessary. The silverwings are the new , I think it is C137 steel ..... or whatever ..... and are a harder steel than the older silver steel TI used to use. Might take a little more honing to get where you want to be.

exactly what he said!

The 135 Carbonsongs are on the harder side and take more time to get back to full potential.
Try a good 8k and finish on your barbers hone.
Of this doesn´t work either contact a honemeister or reset the bevel yourself.

There is a lot that could cause such a "problem".
First off I think TI does heavy stropping (on diamond pastes or similar) which leads to slightly rounded bevels.
These cannot be corrected by a simple barbers hone

Just based on my own experience you will need more than a barbers hone. The new steel is harder and it takes more than a bit more honing to get it back up to snuff depending on how dull you let it get. If you have a good 8K stone or higher that's probably where you need to be and just have patience with it.

Just out of curiosity, can you post a pic of the spine and bevel? Both sides?

I have had much trouble with mine. Routines that have worked with any other razor don't work with a Silverwing. I get mine right every time with a vintage Tam O'Shanter. Nowadays I keep mine going with a paddle strop pasted with cubic boron nitride.

I just recently honed a c135 steel TI. It was a nightmare, I think I did 10 times more work than usual. Like setting the bevel I did at least 150 circles and 50 X strokes. Then I did about 80 strokes on each stone. I think you should probably drop to 8000 and do about 50 X strokes at least. Its just very hard steel, thats the reason I am never buy TI again, although once finished it does shave nicely.

Originally Posted by dps

I just recently honed a c135 steel TI. It was a nightmare, I think I did 10 times more work than usual. Like setting the bevel I did at least 150 circles and 50 X strokes. Then I did about 80 strokes on each stone. I think you should probably drop to 8000 and do about 50 X strokes at least. Its just very hard steel, thats the reason I am never buy TI again, although once finished it does shave nicely.

You think that was a nightmare? It's a cakewalk compared to the TI damascus-Har har.

Also, keep in mind, Barber's hones usually aren't the smoothest hones out there. They get the job done for refreshing an edge on a razor but they've always been harsh to my face and I prefer any finishing hone over a barber's hone when it comes to the shave experience.

Originally Posted by Lynn

Just out of curiosity, can you post a pic of the spine and bevel? Both sides?

Lynn, Ill give it a try although my camera was state of the art about seven years ago,The Sony Cybershot, HOLY COW, it became obsolete before I had finished the instructions,I don't have the batteries in it now but Ill try tomorrow,or I'm going to buy a better camera,the close-up function it the worst,new technology....BAH.
But getting back on track,Ive heard others complain about them before,thats why Im asking,its the one with the Rams horn,and may be the only one that came shave ready as far as I can tell from the other comments.