Thread: Dull Smile

Originally Posted by ericm

If definition no 1 is correct (and the blade is not bent out of the plane), then why would the smile in the blade keep the entire edge of your razor from touching the hone?

The edge is in the plane of the blade, but the blade is not in the plane of the hone.

Originally Posted by swampfox

My problem may be solved by honing more at heel and tip than in the middle.

this sounds like a frown, buddy - not a smile

Ivo, putting a bit of pressure on the heel and the toe will give a smiling edge. Honing the middle will give you a frown.

With that edge shape you might want to do as Lynn Abrams suggests and use a 45 degree angle with the X pattern.
If you have not purchsed Lynn's DVD I would highly recommend it.

I think it was Hal Wilson that told me to use a windshield wiper type motion to hone this type of razor. Once keen they work very nice.

Glen

this type of blade is hard to hone till you get used to the motion ,the trick I started with to set the bevel ,turn the hone edge on,even with a combo stone it dosn`t matter,use the x pattern and you cant help set a perfect bevel
Kind regards peter

Originally Posted by bg42

,turn the hone edge on,
Kind regards peter

Turn the hone on its side, use the side of the hone. Is that what you mean? If so then I agree with you. That is an effective method. But...it does require a bit of practice and some real concentration.

Originally Posted by randydance062449

Turn the hone on its side, use the side of the hone. Is that what you mean? If so then I agree with you. That is an effective method. But...it does require a bit of practice and some real concentration.

yep that is what I mean ,the hardest thing is to find a method to secure the hone properly.
Kind regards Peter

Originally Posted by bg42

this type of blade is hard to hone till you get used to the motion ,the trick I started with to set the bevel ,turn the hone edge on,even with a combo stone it dosn`t matter,use the x pattern and you cant help set a perfect bevel
Kind regards peter

I use one of those little triangular knife hones to set the bevel when I first get them home from ebay. A narrow hone really does help for this initial step, especially if there's a significant smile.

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

Ivo, putting a bit of pressure on the heel and the toe will give a smiling edge. Honing the middle will give you a frown.

Ilija - exactly. So it (putting more pressure on the heel and toe) is used to fix a frown - to bring the blade back to normal first (at the expense of material from the heel and toe) and if you continue past this point - then you get a smilie

When he said his problem can be solved by honing more at the heel and toe, I thought he had a frown. I did go back, however, and the blade is a smilie - in this case, I'd avoid putting too much pressure on the heel and toe because all this is going to do is increase the merriment but maybe that's ok?

Cheers
Ivo