I honed a razor for my dad earlier today using only the Norton 4000/8000, and the results were quite nice. I don't remember exactly what I did, but it took a little while on the 4k side since the bevel had to be reset. After polishing up on the 8k side, I stropped on denim about 50 laps and then on leather 100 laps. After all that I decided to test it out. Prep was my normal routine and the shave went really well. I got a little burn on my neck, but I'm still a noob straight shaver and I haven't figured out how to shave my neck yet; I attribute the burn to my technique.