Thread: belgian coticules

Dylandog,
So far tests seem to show just that.

Tony

Does anyone progress from a coticule to an escher/thuringen, or are they so similar that that'd be sort of a waste of time?

I will have to get back to you guys about the cost of the microscope use. I may be able to get some friends in that department sneak in a razor under normal research time.
I will let you know.

They are so similar that you would be wasting your time.

Originally Posted by dylandog

Does anyone progress from a coticule to an escher/thuringen, or are they so similar that that'd be sort of a waste of time?

Originally Posted by dylandog

Do people on this forum agree that the escher is finer and more of a finisher than the coticule?

I would not agree. Each of the natural stones will vary within their own kind in their relative fineness. This applies to the Arkansas, Belgian, Escher/Thuringer, Water of Ayr, Tam O'Shanter, natural Japanese stones etc.

You really have to ask yourself where/how are you going to find an "Old Rock" coticule or a top grade Escher. I have a Belgian "Old Rock" and a "Deep Rock" but I have never seen them on Ebay nor do many of our members have them. Lastly, what test can you use to determine the grade of an Escher?

Oh, you might also ask if they work the same on every steel?

Don't get me wrong, I really like natural stones! I think that it is really cool that a simple piece of rock, dug up from the ground, can be used as a tool to put a wickedly sharp edge on a piece of steel.

Please don't look for the "ultimate" stone, hone or abrasive. They do not exist. Each is a tool, learn the appropriate place and manner to use it.

Randy is right. Natural stones have different responses from different steels. That is what makes using natural stones and even barber hones for that matter so interesting. It turns sharpening into an art instead of a machine like operation. there will always be limitations on each.

Rexj

Originally Posted by 72miura

I will have to get back to you guys about the cost of the microscope use. I may be able to get some friends in that department sneak in a razor under normal research time.
I will let you know.

I would love to see a clear photo of microserrations on a shaving sharp razor.

I have always wanted to take a series of shots showing the effect of different steps in sharpening a razor for use.

Thanks Randy - this is very helpful.

Originally Posted by randydance062449

I would not agree. Each of the natural stones will vary within their own kind in their relative fineness. This applies to the Arkansas, Belgian, Escher/Thuringer, Water of Ayr, Tam O'Shanter, natural Japanese stones etc.

You really have to ask yourself where/how are you going to find an "Old Rock" coticule or a top grade Escher. I have a Belgian "Old Rock" and a "Deep Rock" but I have never seen them on Ebay nor do many of our members have them. Lastly, what test can you use to determine the grade of an Escher?

Oh, you might also ask if they work the same on every steel?

Don't get me wrong, I really like natural stones! I think that it is really cool that a simple piece of rock, dug up from the ground, can be used as a tool to put a wickedly sharp edge on a piece of steel.

Please don't look for the "ultimate" stone, hone or abrasive. They do not exist. Each is a tool, learn the appropriate place and manner to use it.

Anyway I'm happy with my freckled non-vintage non-kosher parmesan-lookin new rock. I just touched up my quarter hollow w/15 passes on it, and saw a successful HHT for the first time ever with my own eyes. I was beginning to think that was either a legend or that my fro-hairs were just too wiry.

Originally Posted by dylandog

Anyway I'm happy with my freckled non-vintage non-kosher parmesan-lookin new rock. I just touched up my quarter hollow w/15 passes on it, and saw a successful HHT for the first time ever with my own eyes. I was beginning to think that was either a legend or that my fro-hairs were just too wiry.

Dylandog,
Then that is all that matters......it works, you got a good one.

Tony