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    +1 on lap counts being a pandora's box. Extra hollow vs wedge will vary the count alot. Hardness of steel.

    The thing I notice is that the masters are able to use very few strokes, and the rest of us have to use way more. I can only guess this has to do w/ the quality of the bevel set, and the quality of the subsequent strokes. Lynn & Glenn finish many different methods w/ only 10 strokes on the finisher. I'll be glad when I unlock that door.
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    Having a good bevel set is really key to getting good results when honing.

    The main thing is that if it takes you 15 strokes or 20 strokes and you can get to the result you want on a repeated basis, then finding that approximate number of strokes will really help you as you hone more razors of all kinds, shapes and sizes. The only right way to do things is the way that works best for you. Same with stones. You don't know what you don't try and even then your results may be different from someone elses. I really like this sport!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinklather View Post
    +1 on lap counts being a pandora's box. Extra hollow vs wedge will vary the count alot. Hardness of steel.

    The thing I notice is that the masters are able to use very few strokes, and the rest of us have to use way more. I can only guess this has to do w/ the quality of the bevel set, and the quality of the subsequent strokes. Lynn & Glenn finish many different methods w/ only 10 strokes on the finisher. I'll be glad when I unlock that door.
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    Well I had been thinking I had been overhoning certain blades (full hollow) I still think that may be the case..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8Shooter View Post
    Well I had been thinking I had been overhoning certain blades (full hollow) I still think that may be the case..
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    You also have to consider whether it is more likely that you will overhone on the finter grit hones or underhone. I think it much more likely that you will underhone. I think it much more likely that you will sabotage your honing from worry about overhoning by then underhoning. But, the proof is in the edge. If you come to the end of your honing, and the edge is not sharp, well then back to the drawing boards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryAndro View Post
    You also have to consider whether it is more likely that you will overhone on the finter grit hones or underhone. I think it much more likely that you will underhone. I think it much more likely that you will sabotage your honing from worry about overhoning by then underhoning. But, the proof is in the edge. If you come to the end of your honing, and the edge is not sharp, well then back to the drawing boards.
    Clearly. My whole poiint of this is that a few of my edge's are slightly harsh. Still crazy sharp and under magnification highly polished. I think they might have developed a wire edge that is breaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8Shooter View Post
    Clearly. My whole poiint of this is that a few of my edge's are slightly harsh. Still crazy sharp and under magnification highly polished. I think they might have developed a wire edge that is breaking.
    If the edges are very sharp and highly polished, and you have stropped them sufficiently, and probably used something like chromium oxide or diamond before the leather stropping, then you have to consider the possibility that the harshness is not due to burrs or wire edges or overhoning. Even though I am afraid this will kick off another round of gnashing of teeth by some here, you might just have a very sharp edge. And, if you strop a few times, and the shaves become comfortable, it might be because the edge has lost just a little of the V shaped sharpness and is now more of a very, very sharp U shape. Still very sharp, but, due to the slight rounding of the bevel immediately before the cutting edge, gentler on my skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryAndro View Post
    If the edges are very sharp and highly polished, and you have stropped them sufficiently, and probably used something like chromium oxide or diamond before the leather stropping, then you have to consider the possibility that the harshness is not due to burrs or wire edges or overhoning. Even though I am afraid this will kick off another round of gnashing of teeth by some here, you might just have a very sharp edge. And, if you strop a few times, and the shaves become comfortable, it might be because the edge has lost just a little of the V shaped sharpness and is now more of a very, very sharp U shape. Still very sharp, but, due to the slight rounding of the bevel immediately before the cutting edge, gentler on my skin.
    Good point Larry
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