Thread: NaJorton has got me thinking about overhoning with higher grit hones

How many passes do the Honemeister's usually use on the higher grit hones? I.E. 12K Naniwa, 16K shapton, CrOx paddle etc. I'm thinking some of my blades that may seem a tad harsh may be from being overhoned. When I saw how little it took off the 8K in JaNorton to polish/finish it got me thinking/rethinking my process. Any thoughts boys?
Paul

While I'm no honemeister, on the Shapton 16k I do about 15-17 passes, 6-7 on the 30k. Crox rarely more than 10.

It seems to me the Norton 8k isn't super fast, it polishes more than it cuts, so far I'm finding my razors can tolerate a lot of passes on it.

Of course it depends on the razor but on the Naniwa12k about 12 on the Shapton 16k about 15 and the Shapton 30k I use the 3-2-1 or maybe a 3-2-2

This is a dangerous thread though, you have to be very careful when you start thinking in laps counts, in fact not to many years back you would be hard pressed to even find laps counts on SRP other then the Pyramid...

You have to take so many variables into account when honing, just the simple one of hone progression is a big one... If I tell you laps counts as I just did you have to understand that on the Naniwas I hone 1-3-5-8-10-12 so my edge coming off the 10k would be different than someone coming off the 8k or perhaps someone skipping the 5k same as the Shaptons I go 1-2-4-6-8-16-30

I also do those progressions after a 1k Chosera bevel set so all my laps on all those stones are super light finishing style laps I am not chasing sharp everything after the bevel set is all about smooth...

Feel on the hones is still what you need to develop the most

I agree with Glen. I could say that on my Naniwa 12k I'm always between 10 and 15 strokes, however....the reality is that I'm feeling and listening and looking simultaneously.

I may be at 9 strokes, and then all of a sudden the feel of the razor changes on stroke 10, and I see something different happen on stroke 11, and that's it. I may be out to lunch, but I reall believe this. Stroke count is only a ballpark until you get your feel on that stone.

In my opinion, starting at 8K, I don't think overhoning is a problem. As long as you are evenly honing both sides, I don't know whether you can overhone. While it is likely that most here will disagree...

When in doubt, hone some more!

But, remember this is directed to the 8K and above hones. Below that, it is a totally different story.

All I have is a Phig and a surgical black Arkie, which means 50-100 laps for finishing.