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01-07-2012, 08:15 PM #1Member
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Wondering about the Mastri Livi style of honing...
Ok, now... I know this video has been talked about many times with varying comments about "What's he doing to that razor!" to "Shut up... this man is a master." The second statement is the true one, btw. When I first saw it, obviously I realized that it's different than how I learned, but, being a philosophy student, I remembered two quotes. One quote from Socrates, "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” And one quote from Mikhail Bakunin, "Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought. In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the boot-maker" So, I picked up an old Fritz Bracht that I had in a box which didn't even have a bevel and grabbed a dmt 325, king 1000, norton 4/8, and my L.I.... and in less than five minutes, that razor was done. Like... f'n done. Stropped up, HHT... done. Like I said, I'm a philosophy major, and I learned a long time ago that Socrates knows what he's talking about... Bakunin, too, for that matter.
I'm pretty sure that the reason it works so well, is that for all but the last few strokes on each stone, you're backhoning as well, so you're pretty much prematurely fighting off overhoning, while at the same time, using each successive stone to remove the scratch pattern of the previous one. Once that scratch pattern is removed and a few finishing strokes are added to solidify the pattern of the current stone in the progression, and remove all evidence of backhoning... you move to the next stone. It's simple and it works, case closed. That's my analysis anyway. Thoughts?monkeypuzzlebeefeater and jdto like this.
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01-07-2012, 08:49 PM
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Thanks for the interesting video! Hadn't seen it before!
01-07-2012, 08:55 PM
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You are quite right, there are many ways to hone a razor to a shave-ready state
While I haven't used his methods myself, I've been fortunate enough to get me a Livi Snake.
And rest assured, that thing is a stellar shaver with a killer edge!
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Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years....
01-07-2012, 09:06 PM
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I want one, something fierce... but considering I'd have to sell every razor I have now and probably a couple of hones to be able to afford one, I'll just continue to want for now. hahaOriginally Posted by Birnando
You are quite right, there are many ways to hone a razor to a shave-ready state
While I haven't used his methods myself, I've been fortunate enough to get me a Livi Snake.
And rest assured, that thing is a stellar shaver with a killer edge!
01-07-2012, 09:19 PM
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I thought that video started with "Don't try this at home folks !"
Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
01-07-2012, 09:22 PM
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Haha! It probably did, Jimmy... but I'm that guy who set his parents house of fire after watching Beavis and Butthead.I thought that video started with "Don't try this at home folks !"
01-08-2012, 09:06 AM
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Actually, the parents of that kid never had cable, so he couldn't have seen it--it was just in vogue then to blame that show for everything bad that happened.Sorry to hijack, but I just had to mention that!
Back to the point, yeah, it's a little different than what we usually do--he does seem to do a bit more pasted stropping than we usually do, but it does work for him. Pretty sure that the steel he uses in those beauties can take a little more, too, so maybe that's a factor as well.
01-08-2012, 02:12 PM
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Im sure i heard the same thing. Dont try this at home. Lol.
Can anyone identify the hones he is using?
01-08-2012, 02:21 PM
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Yeah, Lynn asked him a while back, I think.
1- japanese stone 300/1000 orange/blue (MinoSharp)
2- japanese stone 3000 yellow (MinoSharp)
3- belgium cuticule stone
4- arkansas stone
01-08-2012, 02:38 PM
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Cool. I thought those last 2 were a coti and an ark. Has anyone tried an ark? I dont see too many people using the. If they do there not posting it. Do you know which ark it is?
