Agreed. Grasping honing is hard enough, you don't need to make it harder on yourself by not having a 4,000 grit stone. You NEED one. Also, on the 8k, use slurry for 50 laps each side, then no slurry for 50 laps each side with no pressure on slurry and no slurry. Then, the pasted strop is still your friend