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10-25-2012, 11:20 PM #11Senior Member
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I guess I wasn't impressed by the results after the 8k. I thought it should've been sharper. Anyway, I'll test shave it tomorrow and touch up a different razor. I'll do the same routine but without the CrO. I'll then test it and then add Cro, then test it again. I thought it would be better to hone 2 days in a row, than one longer session.
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10-26-2012, 01:33 AM #12Senior Member
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I found when learning to hone chromium oxide made a huge difference.
It could turn a poor shaver to a good shaver, a stroke or two on the face is enough to determine a fail. I found chromium oxide on leather or balsa could turn a fail into a win.
Was it the cro ox that made the difference, I vote yes. Do you need to work on your honing? I vote yes.
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10-26-2012, 11:12 PM #13Hones & Honing
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When your razor does not pass your tests, what ever they may be, there is no point in going to finer grits. More time on the 8K or step back to a 6K again until the edge passes your tests on the 8K.
After that, then you can go to finer grits. BTW, I usually use 30 laps on the CrOx on a leather paddle strop.
Today I was honing a Lewis razor and did just that. I stayed on the 8K and then went one step back for awhile then back to the 8K until it passed my tests. That approach has always worked for me.
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10-27-2012, 02:21 AM #14Senior Member
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ok I touched up another razor, a Boker Edelweiss. I did 10 laps on a 8k Naniwa (it's the second time i've ever used it, felt "sticky") and tested it. The results weren't good so I did 10 more laps. I tested it again and it was cutting leg hair at med length. Moved to the Naniwa 10k for 10 laps. Then moved to the Naniwa 12k for 15 laps. It was cutting leg hair med length ok. I then skipped the CrO and tried out my brand new Tony Miller 2.5" Heirloom Artisan English Bridle. 50 laps on the Linen (first time I've ever used linen) and 100 laps on the leather. It was cutting my leg hair at med length like crazy
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I know it's only a touch up but I feel good. I think the stropping did make a difference and I want to see for myself how the razor shaves without Cro vs with it. So tomorrow I'll test shave both razors.
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10-27-2012, 03:04 AM #15Senior Member
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OMG,,,,why didn't someone tell me we were back to using the X-Stroke on 3" hones. I thought they were of no use on 3" hones ???
Originally Posted by Gammaray
http://straightrazorpalace.com/advan...rn-stroke.html
Thank you Gammaray for linking this fine video, of this nice young man demonstrating the X-Stroke on his 3" balsa hone.
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10-27-2012, 07:08 PM
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thats agood idea . I'd leave crox out and concentrate on maxing hones. see what your naniwas are capable of.. then chuck crox in see if you get any improvemant... i've shaved of 10k naniwa and it was nice and smooth very sharp edge of 10k.ok I touched up another razor, a Boker Edelweiss. I did 10 laps on a 8k Naniwa (it's the second time i've ever used it, felt "sticky") and tested it. The results weren't good so I did 10 more laps. I tested it again and it was cutting leg hair at med length. Moved to the Naniwa 10k for 10 laps. Then moved to the Naniwa 12k for 15 laps. It was cutting leg hair med length ok. I then skipped the CrO and tried out my brand new Tony Miller 2.5" Heirloom Artisan English Bridle. 50 laps on the Linen (first time I've ever used linen) and 100 laps on the leather. It was cutting my leg hair at med length like crazy
I know it's only a touch up but I feel good. I think the stropping did make a difference and I want to see for myself how the razor shaves without Cro vs with it. So tomorrow I'll test shave both razors.
10-29-2012, 02:09 PM
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FWIW, I have a hard time getting any razors I hone to cut hair (arm or leg) at any length until after I've stropped them on both linen and leather.
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Well, I tried to say this in my prior post but it seems I need to say it better. Here goes......
There is no point to move from an 8K hone to a finer one if the edge does not pass your sharpness tests. Your just wasting your time. At this stage a person needs to realize that they have not performed enough laps on the coarser hones, the 4k-6K-8K, and those are the grits they need to revisit to improve the edge, not the finer hones. It is a common mistake for newbies to make.
Yes, you can take a substandard edge and make it shave by excessive stropping but the edge will not last long. Neither the strop not fine grit hones are a substitute for proper honing.
lastly, you can achieve a very good shaving edge from a 8K Norton. Read the JaNorton thread...
http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...on-2012-a.html
Go back to the 4K & 6K to obtain a far better edge.
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