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12-29-2012, 08:39 PM #1
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Thanked: 38Irregular bevel, but ...
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I take profit of a tread in another section to ask your opinion.
That's the photo of mi TI after that I've honed it. The bevel is quite irregular, the other side is opposite: thin where this side is large and large where this side is thin.
That makes sense, BUT when bought it was shave ready from factory and the bevel was PERFECTLY uniform, the same size along the overall length.
Sorry, I didn't take a picture at that time because didn't think that it could be useful and you have ti trust me.
Any idea of how in TI they could have honed it?
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12-29-2012, 08:53 PM #2
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Thanked: 13245They lifted the spine off the stone, thus never engaging the uneven /warped spine or you applied uneven pressure when you honed it...
Either one or a combination of those could be hapenning with the razorLast edited by gssixgun; 12-29-2012 at 08:55 PM.
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12-29-2012, 09:01 PM #3
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Thanked: 38The spine is slightly warped in the middle, like a large V
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12-29-2012, 10:52 PM #4
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Thanked: 13245Did you test the blade for Wobble ???
If you place it on a known flat surface and check for eveness with a light source behind it, or check it for wobble on the surafce it can tell you a lot..
The best time to test them if BEFORE you hone them
I do pretty much the same thing everytime I tear a Vintage razor down to make Custom scales, before I start, I check the Razor /Tang for straightness so I know what I am dealing with and if it will be a problem for the razor closing centered.. That way I always know it isn't my build but the razor itself..
New production out of the box razors should be checked before you hone them, especially if you are not going to tape the spine, that way you know what to expect... if the razor is warped before you start honing it, then you have the option of sending it back, or at least knowing what direction you need to take..
Since your razor has been honed already there is no way of knowing what happened... Solution, use 2 layers of tape, re-set the bevel, and see if it straightens out.. Or grind the crap outta the spine on a low grit stone trying to even it up
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12-30-2012, 05:46 AM #5
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Thanked: 116Have you honed more than one razor on these stones?? Perhaps your stones are in need of a good lapping as well. Either way, this wouldn't hurt!
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12-30-2012, 09:12 AM #6
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Thanked: 38Well,
I'd been shaving with it for 1 year and it was great, then I was thinking that it needed a touch up. I went on my stones (king 6000 + naniwa 10000) without any concern and messed up the bevel.
Then I reset the bevel with tape and from the tape wear understood what the problem was. It took too long to me to understand the problem, but I was trusting so much that wanderfully finished blade.
Later I found the way to manage the blade and got again a shave ready blade.
Just to add to the discussion I took photos as you suggest:
As you can see both the spine AND the bevel are warped.
I doubt that working on the spine could solve the problem, any suggestion is welcome.
Though, as I already said I am able to hone and get it shave ready.
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12-30-2012, 09:26 AM #7
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Thanked: 13245That means the problem is only cosmetic, bevels don't have to be neat, even, nor tiny, for the razor to shave, like I said earlier try 2 layers of tape and see if that helps, if not I would just shave and be happy...
There is another tape trick, but I can show it in a Vid way faster then I can type it and explain it, maybe after the New Year I will get it up on my Youtube channel...Last edited by gssixgun; 12-30-2012 at 09:28 AM.
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12-30-2012, 03:12 PM #8
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Thanked: 38i can't wait to see your new video.
I'll try the double tape next time, because the issue is both cosmetic and the long time it takes to me to hone. Though I prepared a yellow cuticule with a large chamfer to work on such kind of blade.
In my procedure I lap the stones after each 1 or 2 blades. And after heavy bevel setting I give the final strokes on a DMT just to be sure that it's still perfectly flat.