Thread: Kamisori honing -Video

I was making some videos for a contest on another forum and decided to shoot one of honing a kamisori and one of honing a western straight.
Both videos are of honing on a finishing hone.
The kamisori needed the bevel set towards the heel, that was done fully on the finishing stone with Koma nagaura.

Nice videos! What is the loop you use to look at the blade?

Originally Posted by Happybill

Nice videos! What is the loop you use to look at the blade?

It is a scope like this one
SE Illuminated Pocket Microscope 30X: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

That is a different technique than I have seen on the Kamisori to point.
Questions

Have you done them the more traditional way? (ie. 10/1 or 7/1/ or 5/3)

If so what led you to this method and why have you stuck with it?

New to Kamisori here And thanks for the post

Originally Posted by pfries

That is a different technique than I have seen on the Kamisori to point.
Questions

Have you done them the more traditional way? (ie. 10/1 or 7/1/ or 5/3)

If so what led you to this method and why have you stuck with it?

New to Kamisori here And thanks for the post

I have done them all kinds of ways, 1:1 works fine for me. I think the geometry of the blade allows for that ratio.

Unrelated to my reasoning, recently I watched a video of Miszouchi- San (he is the maker of Iwsaki kamisori) honing kamisori and he uses 1:1 ratio.

Now in light of your question I wonder, why 10:1, 10:3, 5:3, 7:3 etc are considered traditional ratios. Were they demonstrated by Japanese barbers? I do not know.

Originally Posted by mainaman

Now in light of your question I wonder, why 10:1, 10:3, 5:3, 7:3 etc are considered traditional ratios. Were they demonstrated by Japanese barbers? I do not know.

Makes two of us,
The one I received recently only needed a light touch up.

I may take it back to the hone to see if the edge will improve.

not that it is not great already but will be a great measure between methods.

Thank you Stefan

The closest thing I found to traditional advice was the 15:3 on the Henkotsu insert.


http://i.imgur.com/jnwOoOt.jpg for bigger version

Originally Posted by Tierdaen

The closest thing I found to traditional advice was the 15:3 on the Henkotsu insert.

Please please please, can you translate all of that?

I've also wondered where the ratio thing comes from, I go more 1:1 sort of exactly like Mainaman (except for the music).
It's easy to see the steel part and if I see it needs it I do more honing on the back.

Originally Posted by Lemur

Please please please, can you translate all of that?

I've also wondered where the ratio thing comes from, I go more 1:1 sort of exactly like Mainaman (except for the music).
It's easy to see the steel part and if I see it needs it I do more honing on the back.

Sorry for the delay. Not very good at Japanese, but the important parts are:

本床向最高級品で切れ味抜群です (For barbershop use...? unsure of translation of 本床向), highest quality product with outstanding sharpness (cutting flavour).

ウラ押１５回オモテ３回の割合で刃付けして下さい Please sharpen with a ratio of 15 passes pressing on the ura to 3 passes [pressing] on the omote.

The rest is address/business info.

Just because of this thread I shot these pics the other day while honing a few Kamisori, on the chance that there is more info here, Many Thanks "T" for your efforts
They are much appreciated

Seems this was a Kamisori last few days 5 different ones across the hones