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    Hey guys, a newbie from Australia here, I'm a uni sudent and I'm always rushing myself, so I figured that straight edge shaving would be a good way to slow down my morning ritual (or start one in my case lol), my cousin showed me a SR a few years ago and I thought nothing of it, but now I'm back here and I can't even remember what it was that got me compelled to start looking at razors not even a few hours ago haha.

    so far I've always had the shoddiest technique and I've only ever used aerosol can cream and cartriges to shave, and even then only the cheapest of the cheap at that. Nasty things those are.

    I have a question, when starting should I get a decent $80 strop like a dovo or a $20 cheapo one in case I damage it? also where might I be able to find soap or cream used for SR shaving? and which ones would you recommend? (I have tried normal soap before but it's the worst thing for my skin when I'm shaving) also keep in mind I live in australia so no walmart stuff (what you have in walmart can be suprisingly hard to find in this country)

    I've also made a little list of what I'll need, please elt me know if there is anything else I need to add

    1: Razor
    2: strop
    3: styptic pen
    4: brush
    5: soap

    Edit: I have been wondering, steel alloys are quite cheap, even more exotic ones, but how can a razor which is a relitavely small piece of sharpened steel alloy cost $100+ sometimes it beast me, is it because the demand is so low?
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    Welcome Stickeelion of Australia from the States. Keep an eye on your thread here. There are a lot of Aussies that are going to jump in here when they find your post. I will alert one of them that I know quite well. He and a lot of the other experienced str8 users will have a lot opinion and advise for you. AND don't be afraid to ask, ask, ask. They sure like to answer. Enjoy the ride we all keep bying more tickets for.
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    Let me answer your edit. A razor that is going to give you a good shave is made from high quality metal. There are a lot of cheap razors made in parts of the world that look appealing but are ANYTHING but. They are poorly made, low quality steel, don't hold an edge very long and in simple words, are crap. SRP has suggestions as to first razor as will all the Aussies that are going to chime in. $!00 is an average price for a beginners razor and will give years of service when properly maintained. A lot of work goes into forging and forming a razor that performs as it should. Do not even consider any razor made in Pakistan or China (a few there but hard to find). If in doubt about the origin of the steel ask the seller. Older razors made in England, France, America, Sweden and Germany prewar W II. Unknown German brands post WW II sometimes use Pakistani made blades that can then be labelled German. Sold German blades stamped Soligen are also among the best. Again ask advise from your countrymen, they know where to get what you need at a reasonable price or how to make it yourself.

    Edit: Sold German should be Old german
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    Welcome, Palmolive SOAP and CREAM are both perfectly good, at a cheap price, as is fauldings shave cream. These are available pretty much everywhere.
    As to the razor, razorfeld summed it up, you can get functional but not terribly pretty vintage razors for $50 or there abouts shave ready if you look around. The classifieds here usually have one or two, I wouldnt go the eBay route yet.
    You may also want some witchhazel and or alum, and some sort of post shave balm and or aftershave.
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    Hi and welcome. If you let us know what part of oz your in a local might be able to help. Would get a reasonable but not expensive strop to start as you will nick up your first one a bit. If you look in the down under forum there is a thread on Australia shaving supplies. Mensbiz and Himage on the net are probably a spot to start to see what's available.
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    thanks guys, I've looked around at vintage razors but I have not yet come across one that doesn't need restoring of some sort, and getting it restored would make it more expensive than a brand new one. I've looked around and I've been eyeing of these ones:


    dovo 5/8 best quality
    Dovo Carbon Steel Half Hollow Best Quality Razor, 5/8

    timor solingen 6/8 (or any similar timor solingen one)
    Timor "Timor Solingen" 6/8" Smoke Black Acrylic Handle | Shaving Style - Online Store

    Giesen & Forsthoff 5/8
    Giesen & Forsthoff Straight Razor - 5/8" with Rose Wood Handle

    the dovos are harder to get in australia however there is a local online store that stocks plenty of razors by the last 2 manufacturers

    I have heard the newer timors are a pain to hone

    what would you guys recommend? adn are there any others you would recommend?

    thank you for you recommendation edhewitt

    I'm still rather amazed they cost that much, even if the steel is extrememly good quality that much of it is denity not $100 even if you add in grinding, forgind and tempering, are they all hand made or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickeelion View Post
    I'm still rather amazed they cost that much, even if the steel is extrememly good quality that much of it is denity not $100 even if you add in grinding, forgind and tempering, are they all hand made or something?
    Welcome to the 'Place'.

    I'm more amazed that Apple charges me $100 /hour for working on a computer. Making a razor takes at least equal skill maybe more & yes a lot of hand work is involved.

    You might consider something 2nd hand as an alternative if price is a consideration. ?

    The G&F's can be made to shave nicely but some take a lot of work.
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    What do you consider needing restoration to be? There are a lot of razors in the classifieds for $100 or well under. But I understand if you want something unblemished.
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    This is one of my razors, it could be argued that it is in need of restoration, but it is still a fine shaver, and those cracks have been stable for about 5 years according to the vendor, it came shave ready, and cost about $50.00
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    Quote Originally Posted by edhewitt View Post
    What do you consider needing restoration to be? There are a lot of razors in the classifieds for $100 or well under. But I understand if you want something unblemished.
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    This is one of my razors, it could be argued that it is in need of restoration, but it is still a fine shaver, and those cracks have been stable for about 5 years according to the vendor, it came shave ready, and cost about $50.00
    All the best
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    well this is a vintage one that I'm looking at on ebay 22hours left on bidding and it's only $26 so far however I've been told restoration will be about $130
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    I have a feeling the price (here in australia) is going to end up at least $140+ for just a razor then you have a strop and all the other stuff to go with it

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    The edge on that Blue Wonder looks more trouble than it's worth.
    Seems a razor like Ed's @ $50 is good value. If you want a new razor or one that looks new you will have to pay more. Bear in mind if you do your part & look after the razor, even a $300 dollar razor is cheap for a lifetime of good shaves. These are not throw away items like most things made today.
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