Thanks Cudarunner It really is!! I am very glad I joined everyone here has been great I would like to learn this art and one day contribute back to the community here. At the moment I am working on learning how to make scales with custom carvings so if i get any good at that will post some on here for all to see and if anyone wants them

As for the blade I am seeing the honemiester tonight to see what he can do as I know it was probably me not stropping right or horrible technique maybe even both. Will see how it all goes and how it shaves afterward but will keep Oz in mind and if I don't feel its up to spec I will PM him straight away. Might even give him a try for the next hone needed to compare between 2 different honers.

Hopefully can get the hang of all this in a couple months although I don't think the first shave was a tragedy by any means.

Thanks for the reply and a new contact there cudarunner great to be here.