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03-22-2014, 09:56 PM #1
Hello From TN
Hello gents,
Erich here from Tennessee
Am seriously thinking about getting into straights razors. I've already bought one from a member of the Badger & Blade forum. It is a Birko and am awaiting its arrival. I have also purchased a Robert Klaas that I intend to learn my honing skills on. Here it is:
I have no idea as to stones and stuff so fire away as to stones, on a budget, that would make this shave ready.
I've already learned that some folks use stone and others use film. Opinions?
Norton? Shapton? King? Naniwa? What grain?
All info is welcome.
Thanks.
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03-22-2014, 11:37 PM #2
If just starting out ,get them pro honed. That way you will have a benchmark to go on, then learn to shave before honing. Just a suggestion. You will find that honing is almost the last thing you need to learn , stropping will be one of the most important thing to master , that way honing won't be often. I,m going on 6 months of shaving with a straight and I haven't honed a thing! Had mine done by the pros, I just concentrated on shave technique and stropping. Have fun, ask all the questions you think of. Plus for the cost of a couple hones I can get several razors honed. Tc
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03-23-2014, 12:17 AM #3
Welcome to the most friendly, helpful and informative site on the web!!
You will find members here of all different backgrounds, ages and occupations from all corners of the world and all with a quest for more knowledge about using and maintaining a straight razor!
If you take the time to search, 99.9% of your questions can be found in the Library (WIKI) however feel free to ask us about whatever it is that you are wondering about or having a problem with. It does help if you’ve done some research before hand so it narrows the problem down a bit.
Is the razor 'Shave Ready? If not please get it honed by a pro or an experienced member!!
Do you have a strop?? Brush?? Shaving Soap?? If not you need those also! If you have both Please practice stropping with something like a Dull table knife to practice the 'flip'!
As to learning to Hone--I Very Highly Recommend that you WAIT!!!
I was a meat cutter for several years and I will tell you straight out that the difference between 'sharpening a knife' and 'honing' a razor is as different as black and white!!
IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT WORLD!!!
Stick with learning the BASICS! And Please take your time, go slow! Every Thing about this 'Art' involves Patience!!!
Honing can wait! Get the 'Basics' Down Pat!!! Just ask pinklather/a Mentor/why he chose that 'handle'!!!!! I'll give you a hint--mix red blood with a white lather and guess what you get!!
I'm not trying to discourage you! Quite the opposite I want to see you succeed but this Art takes Patience and Skill!!
I waited about a year and a half before I tried my hand at honing and I'm Damn Glad that I did as it paid off! I had to relearn muscle memory as honing is so
much different!
Enjoy the Ride!! It's a long strange journey but well worth the trip!Our house is as Neil left it- an Aladdin’s cave of 'stuff'.
Kim X
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03-23-2014, 01:07 AM #4
Hey there. I'm just out the road at Woodbury. I can tell you where there's a nice Morely I've looked at twice. But I have a twin to it now, so I'm not interested at retail. PM for specifics (value/price discussions aren't "game" here at SRP).
I also have a lot of rocks and hone razors, but it's quite obvious you just dropped in and need a little bit of time to read up on all the wiki and dozens of other "what rocks do i get for cheap" posts already up on this board.
I'm actually trying a "home-grown" natural tonight from the great white north. And I've made a few, but am way behind on testing them. Making your own, despite its low out-of-pocket expense is undoubtedly NOT THE CHEAPEST way to go about it.
I'll be glad to make recommendations, even meet up and show you some stuff. Just be patient. Nothing about this is fast, unless it's an accident and some of those draw blood, some ruin edges, some ruin whole blades. Fast ain't what this is about.
Enjoy the process, you are always where you are and nowhere else.Buttery Goodness is the Grail
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03-23-2014, 01:53 AM #5
Hey Everyone,
Thanks for the advice. I will take it. I'll just put that Klaas razor away on the shave cave and wait until it is time. As I said in my OP, I am waiting for a shave ready razor from a fellow member from the Badger & Blade. It is a Birko. I guess based on what yo guys are saying, I need to get a strop first and foremost and learn that technique.
Recommendations are welcome!
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03-23-2014, 02:05 AM #6
Yes you must strop between shaves and improper stropping can ruin the edge. On some of Glen's videos (gssixgun) he proceeds through the honing to stropping. Lynn (Lynn Abrams) has videos on stropping as well as honing.
One can shave without honing, but stropping is mandatory.
My stint with HS band (in le 'boro) was Jazz Band in 1983-4. I strum stringy things.
Holler, I'll come down off the mtn and hone up your stuff, loan you a strop, whatever it takes.Last edited by WadePatton; 03-23-2014 at 02:11 AM.
Buttery Goodness is the Grail
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03-23-2014, 02:10 AM #7
Atta Boy!
As far as strops go, I wouldn't buy an expensive one to start out as it's about 99.9% a given that you will nick/cut or otherwise mess it up!!
I like the Illinois 827 as not only being in a beginner's price range but a really good strop! I have others but it's my go to strop right after honing!!
You will need to learn the X-stroke but that's a good thing!! You should be able to find one at Amazon with free shipping.
Remember; take your time, learn the ropes and you will fall in love with this Art! Hurry and Not Be Patient and you will more than likely be disappointed!
Enjoy the Ride!Our house is as Neil left it- an Aladdin’s cave of 'stuff'.
Kim X
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03-23-2014, 02:19 AM #8
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03-23-2014, 03:29 PM #9
Thank you! I will keep that in mind.
I've noticed from looking at prices that the "budget" strops appear to be all 2-2.5" in width. Would the 3" be better or should I resolve myself to learn a good "X pattern?" A member of Badger & Blade thought this might be a good beginner's strop:
Amazon.com: Leather and Canvas Hanging Razor Strop "Shaving Strop 3" 4.5 Cm X 30 Cm: Beauty
Is it important to get a strop that has two handles so that paste can be put on one of the cloth sides?
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03-23-2014, 03:33 PM #10