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    Good advice tho you can safely put the razor down on a flat hard surface if it is closed to 45º or so. The scales will prevent the edge contacting.
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    That is really nice strop. You'll have to start really slow if you don't want to nick it up. Most suggest something simple like a Filly strop from ruprazor.com to start so as to nick that instead of your fine strop.

    slow is smooth and smooth is fast. I started really slow and only made one big nick on my practice strop, and none on my nice strop that I'm using now (knock on wood).

    Sounds like a great kit, you'll love straight shaving once you get over the learning curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffegg2 View Post
    That is really nice strop. You'll have to start really slow if you don't want to nick it up. Most suggest something simple like a Filly strop from ruprazor.com to start so as to nick that instead of your fine strop.

    slow is smooth and smooth is fast. I started really slow and only made one big nick on my practice strop, and none on my nice strop that I'm using now (knock on wood).

    Sounds like a great kit, you'll love straight shaving once you get over the learning curve.
    I do not mean to seem callous, but if I ruin this strop I will just buy a replacement. What I mean is I would like to learn on the best gear I can afford. I am gratified that you like the strop and it gives me confidence that the stop will serve me well to keep the blade sharpened for a while. Thank you much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodach View Post
    I do not mean to seem callous, but if I ruin this strop I will just buy a replacement. What I mean is I would like to learn on the best gear I can afford. I am gratified that you like the strop and it gives me confidence that the stop will serve me well to keep the blade sharpened for a while. Thank you much.

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    No problem, it's your money. The Filly is a good quality strop to learn on, and makes a nice pasted strop when you move to your "best gear". It was sound advice when given to me, and I only passed it on to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffegg2 View Post
    No problem, it's your money. The Filly is a good quality strop to learn on, and makes a nice pasted strop when you move to your "best gear". It was sound advice when given to me, and I only passed it on to you.
    Sounds like good advice from you that I'm failing to understand. Keep drilling it into my simple mind and I'll get it eventually.

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    Re-reading this thread I note that you got the stainless steel version of the Dovo.

    The good news is that it won't break or chip easily, as the carbon steel ones do, and it will hold an edge longer.

    The bad news is that it is harden to sharpen and re-sharpen.

    If you edge is just rounded over, you can probably strop it back into straightness. That's what stropping is for. Try this first. Hold the strop taut and horizontal while you strop. Use X-pattern strokes and glide the razor across the strop.

    What I have found is that stropping is actually an alternative to finish honing, if you use pasted strops. I got an extra canvas strop, and but black paste (coarse) on one side and white paste (fine) on the other. My regular strop has Russian leather and another canvas(?), on which I put green paste (very fine).

    Stropping on the green paste actually lightly hones, as some gray metal is visible when I wipe the blade afterwards with a tissue. The white and black pastes do more serious honing. From what I can tell, using the black/white strops is about equivalent to using 6000/12000 grit waterstones, but less efficient. It's a lot less messy, though. An alternative to black/white/green pastes for strops is 2.5 um, 1.0 um and 0.5 um diamond pastes.

    My basic go/no go test is a variant of the "hanging hair test". After final stropping, I hold a hair with about 1.5" sticking out and drag it along the blade. It should lop off at least once, or the blade is too dull to use. If it lops off after a short distance (several times along the blade), the blade is sharp. If it's not sharp, repeat your process. If it is, shave with it and see if you can shave without tugging and it removes hair. If it tugs, some part of the blade is still not sharp enough (watch for a slight warp in the blade which can prevent uniform honing). If it glides on your face but doesn't appear to shave hair, you probably have a rounded edge ("wire-edge").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alethephant View Post
    What I have found is that stropping is actually an alternative to finish honing, if you use pasted strops. I got an extra canvas strop, and but black paste (coarse) on one side and white paste (fine) on the other. My regular strop has Russian leather and another canvas(?), on which I put green paste (very fine).
    This is very generic information. Can you be more specific about these different coloured pastes you advise ? Colour is no indication of grit size
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffegg2 View Post
    No problem, it's your money. The Filly is a good quality strop to learn on, and makes a nice pasted strop when you move to your "best gear". It was sound advice when given to me, and I only passed it on to you.
    Jeffegg2,

    I just found an article on a "paddle strop". All I seem to read about stropping is to keep it tight and straight and use no pressure. Well, wouldn't buying a "paddle strop" eliminate keeping the strop tight? What don't I know about a paddle strop? It seems the best of both worlds.

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    Many like the paddle strop, and I see how it would be much flatter. I like the hanging strops because they look so "classic" and the coolness factor.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bodach View Post
    Jeffegg2,

    I just found an article on a "paddle strop". All I seem to read about stropping is to keep it tight and straight and use no pressure. Well, wouldn't buying a "paddle strop" eliminate keeping the strop tight? What don't I know about a paddle strop? It seems the best of both worlds.

    Bodach

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