Yeah guess I'd never thought of it that way! No shower it is! Thanks for the info all!

I'll see if I can find a mentor....I've been scouring the forum and have about a million ebay auctions I'm watching for that "special" one.....I really want a Dovo but don't want to get one until I'm well "seasoned".....so for now I'm trying to just find a few cheap ones that I can mess around with....so far my favorite is Boker.....Wostenholm and Butcher are some other ones I've been looking at as well as some duble ducks....I'm a total sucker for collecting so I can see this being a bad habit!! I'm excited to find some I can repair and keep for some heirlooms....it's an important part in man's history that should not be forgotten.....