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    Hey guys, I've been observing the razor crazy world for a few weeks now and I have decided it's time for me to join. Although I have been trying to take in as much as possible, no amount of observation can match real experience. I would love to become a part of the straight razor community but I know next to nothing (after reading the beginner's guide, I realize that I have already made the mistake of bidding on ebay for razors I know nothing about). Anyway, instead of asking a thousand questions, I have decided to give some details of my face. I have a thin face with high cheek bones and a near gaunt look. My skin is rather sensitive and I have a very angular jaw line. My neck is not an easy bit to shave, but my hair quality, I feel, is pretty thin. Given these factors and a low budget, I would love to hear from anybody who has 2 cents to throw in as far as suggestions go for a starting razor and everything else I will need to be a full fledged member or the razor community. Thanks guys.

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    Hello, and welcome to SRP!

    I'd suggest you take some more time to look around the site and gather some information regarding what you might need. I can tell you straight away that your face shape, skin and hair type etc do not really impact on the kind of straight razor you may or may not need to get, at least initially. By far the biggest impact, subsuming all other factors when you start out, will be the techniques: shaving and stropping in particular. They will dominate the shaves initially, and only over time will things like razor grind, leather types for strops etc, come into play.

    You will need at a bare minimum a decent razor and strop. I'd suggest you take a look at the Classifieds and Vendors sections of this forum - there should be something there for all budgets if not all tastes - remember it doesn't matter initially what things look like, just that they perform the function that they were intended for. Do not get caught up in flashy cheap razors off ebay - if they seem too cheap, they probably are not worth the money. There is a "stay away" list here somewhere - chase that down and make sure you don't buy a razor off that list.

    Strops can just be a good piece of leather with something to attach it to a wall or whatever. If you are in any way handy-ish you could probably make your own fairly cheaply. If you would prefer not to, again take a look at the vendors here or the classifieds.

    Lastly, it can sometimes be useful to meet up with a friendly and helpful person close to you. If you click on the Community menu and then "Find Local Help" you will be directed to a region by region list of people willing and able to provide perhaps more "hands on" help.

    Good luck!

    James.

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    Welcome to SRP. James has given you some great guidance. Enjoy and never hesitate to ask any questions.

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    Welcome to the forum! If you stick around a little longer it will all make sense very quickly. Great group of guys here who don't mind answering questions.

    I think any quality razor and strop will work and you can easily get a quality razor from one of the online vendors or the classifieds. IMO a paddle strop is a better choice for a beginner vs a hanging strop.

    BTW, If you wind up winning one of those e-bay razors, I'd be happy to hone it for you for no money. Just PM me.

    Michael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Hello, and welcome to SRP!

    I'd suggest you take some more time to look around the site and gather some information regarding what you might need. I can tell you straight away that your face shape, skin and hair type etc do not really impact on the kind of straight razor you may or may not need to get, at least initially. By far the biggest impact, subsuming all other factors when you start out, will be the techniques: shaving and stropping in particular. They will dominate the shaves initially, and only over time will things like razor grind, leather types for strops etc, come into play.

    You will need at a bare minimum a decent razor and strop. I'd suggest you take a look at the Classifieds and Vendors sections of this forum - there should be something there for all budgets if not all tastes - remember it doesn't matter initially what things look like, just that they perform the function that they were intended for. Do not get caught up in flashy cheap razors off ebay - if they seem too cheap, they probably are not worth the money. There is a "stay away" list here somewhere - chase that down and make sure you don't buy a razor off that list.

    Strops can just be a good piece of leather with something to attach it to a wall or whatever. If you are in any way handy-ish you could probably make your own fairly cheaply. If you would prefer not to, again take a look at the vendors here or the classifieds.

    Lastly, it can sometimes be useful to meet up with a friendly and helpful person close to you. If you click on the Community menu and then "Find Local Help" you will be directed to a region by region list of people willing and able to provide perhaps more "hands on" help.

    Good luck!

    James.
    +1 on the remarks from James...

    First there is the beginner Wiki page.
    Beginner's guide to straight razor shaving - Straight Razor Place Wiki

    Next is my opinion that shaving depends more on the shave prep than on the blade
    for most of us. So lets start with "latherin".

    A decent brush and one or two good shave soaps or creams combined with some
    inexpensive tossable plastic handled razors will get you going on the wet shaving
    road while you shop for the more expensive razor and strop.

    I just picked up a summer brush because I like a scrubby boar brush in the summer.
    For $13.00 I recently found a stellar "Omega 10098" boar brush and will alternate with
    my ten times more expensive badger brushes. As for soap pick up the refill puck
    and keep them in empty plastic kitchen tubs. When you find one soap that totally floats
    your boat spring for the logo branded special container. GREAT tubes of cream and
    refill pucks of soap can be had for about $10 each.

    The Van Der Hagen Premium Shave Set (Soap, Bowl, Brush) is another beginner bargain
    and is often available locally at a CVS for less than $15.

    There is a grand thread running now http://straightrazorpalace.com/soaps...ike-about.html
    if you are looking for ideas. My favorites include Proraso, Cella, Cyril R Salter Shaving cream (today was French Vetiver), Mitchell's Wool Fat
    and Williams (yes Williams the cheapest of the lot). I am very fond of a pea size bit of Proraso on top of Williams in a mug.
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    DBVulcan:
    Welcome to SRP! I'm glad to see so many people joining this great site since I did a few weeks ago. I think that you will not find a finer group of wet-shaving aficionados anywhere on the web. This is truly a gentlemen's club
    Jimbo (that Wonder from Down Under), mjsorkin and niftyshaving all gave you some very good info -- and the offer of a free honing! I've found that sort of behaviour is the norm here on SRP (BTW, I hereby nominate mjsorkin for this week's Silver Shaver award!).
    Since you've purchased a razor, the next item you will need is a strop. If you have an old belt laying around, practice on that with a butter knife. Then head on over to whippeddog.com and check out their strops. I recommend you buy their 3-inch wide strop (with the linen side). As a rookie you WILL mar your first one. Even long-time users nick and ding their strops. Don't panic! I nicked mine earlier this week.
    Next items will be soap/creme and a brush. These items tend to be very user-particular in the sense that everyone has their own favourites and preferences. (Un)fortunately, the only sure-fire method of determining which is just right for you is via trial-and-error. That being said, VDH produces a brush/creme kit that is usually available at Walmart, Costco, etc. for approx. $15 U.S. I would recommend this for you as a place to start since you state that you are on a limited budget.
    I hope this helps you out. Again, welcome to SRP. We're glad to have you!

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    DBVulcan,

    I might suggest, that in addition to your first straight razor, you get a traditional safety razor (if you haven't got one already), either double edge (with blade sampler pack) or single edge.

    They can be invaluable when you are first learning to use a straight

    Good luck !

    Have fun !

    Best regards

    Russ

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    I am right now, next on the list is a set of soaps and brush, also gotta get a strop together. Using Jimbo's technique and a few modifications, I think i may be able to put something useable together.

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