Thread: Pre shave, non oil based

Originally Posted by 71L

Their own website mentions it was developed by a Pharmacist, Bill Kennedy.

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I have no personal experience with the company, just the product back when I was doing clinical rotations - and the information I've given is what we were told about the product. Then again, maybe we were told what we were told because the occasional person might get upset if they're told a doctor ordered dairy cow teat cream for their mother.

In any case, I was just answering Hirlau's question as to why it's stocked in the first aid section of some stores.

Originally Posted by Utopian

The fact that a pharmacist developed it does not in any way alter the fact that he developed it for bovines and that its initial purpose and use was for the protection of teats and udders.

Personally, I would not uses the stuff on my face given some if the ingredients, so I'd rather its use was restricted to cows.

We are testing the Udderly here at home for acne,, my son suffers from it & takes medication for it, with little help,,, we started the Udderly first thing in the morning , after a shower & the medicine at night after a shower. This has been going on 6 days with a very noticeable improvement. We will keep this routine going a month to see what happens.

Good Morning Gents!

What a beautiful day it is in Texas. Anyway, I tried the Noxema skin cream that TC had mentioned this morning. It was a great product as well. Nice and smooth. I must say though, the utter cream, in my opinion, is the better product for my face. Each of our faces are different, so you have to go with what works for you. For me it's the utter cream and a few drops of glycerin as a pre-shave works the best for me.

Have a great day!

Thanks guys for the information. This is one of the great things of SRP, how we learn from each other's experience. I use an oil/glycerin pre-shave I mix myself, haven't felt any big problem. No big deal I wipe it off, but I've tried a non-oily pre-shave (besides Proraso) which I've liked it's Crown Shaving Co. Supreme Glide Pre Shave Formula. It is $30.00 for 8oz. But these you guys have mentioned are super as they are more accessible, lower cost and found in local stores. It has no overpowering smell that may interfere with the soap also.

I have only used a homemade pre-shave oil consisting of Grapeseed oil, Castor oil and mint essential oil. I believe that it works for me however it does leave an oily residue in the sink and on the brush. My grandmother uses Udderly Smooth for her dry skin and loves it. I never thought about using it as an pre-shave but I might just have to give it a shot. Thank you for the info

I've tried so many I can't remember them all. AOS oil was horrible, coated everything. Been using Crown pre-shave gel. Gives a slick base without the oil and washes off easily. Works well with creams or soaps. You get 8 ounces so it lasts a long time. Comes with a pump. One pump gives you more then enough for 3 passes. Based on the amount you get, it is the least expensive you will find.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

In the beginning I tried oils as a preshave, never really liked any of them.
I found this 4 years ago & use it every shave,,, unless I'm testing a soap or cream for review.

Washes of clean, does not clog razor, water based , nice clean scent & softens the whiskers for me.
At Wal Mart,,, lasts a long time.

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Hirlau, when you apply that, do you apply it to your face and then wash it off before lathering, or you you apply, rub it in, then lather + shave?

I have found Crown pre-shave gel to work very well. It comes in a large pump bottle and it does not leave the oily residue on your face, hands, brush or razors. You get a lot for your money and a bottle lasts a long time.

Originally Posted by jwir3

Hirlau, when you apply that, do you apply it to your face and then wash it off before lathering, or you you apply, rub it in, then lather + shave?

I apply it before the lather(heavy coat),,, leave it on,,, then lather on top of it.

Originally Posted by 71L

Udderly Smooth was developed by a Pharmacist for Oncology pt's (who can develop cracked dry skin from Chemotherapy/Radiation) and Diabetes pt's (who often develop cracked dry skin to their feet/toes due to peripheral neuropathy/decreased blood flow). It was originally a "barrier cream" that's been tested not to interact with Oncology meds/Radiation/Diabetes meds while at the same time preventing bacteria from moving through it and into the wounds/cracks. It is also hypoallergenic, as particularly cancer pt's can become hypersensitive during treatment. When cancer/diabetes pt's & Oncology nurses discovered how smooth it made their hands they started using it as a general moisturizer (seriously, I remember way back when I was still in school and doing my clinical rotations through various units the Oncology nurses were constantly being asked to "steal" samples for the nurses/residents in other units) the company started making it for general public use as well.

I'd never considered using it for shaving, but can't think of any downsides. Besides being an excellent moisturizer it also inhibits bacterial growth, so it would prevent infections to any little cuts, and decreases bleeding as well.

The three hospitals I work at currently don't use Udderly Smooth anymore (and haven't for several years). The current Barrier Creams they all use are supposed to be "better" but my biggest observation/theory for the change is that they all have a "funky/medical" smell whereas the Udderly Smooth had a much nicer, very light "clean/fresh" scent. The nurses don't "steal" the stuff anymore for personal use and only the pt's that really need a Barrier Cream now get it put on them, whereas with the Udderly Smooth everyone and their grandma wanted it, and to take the rest of the tub home with them.

Originally Posted by 71L

None that I've ever heard of... the pt's and nurses I've known who used it were past having any concern for any remaining acne they might have had left, I'm afraid.

I can think of two possibilities:
1. The antibacterial/barrier properties of the cream help kill some of the bacteria or prevent it from spreading around the skin to begin with and your acne gets better.
2. the antibacterial/barrier properties of the cream help kill some of the bacteria on the surface, so the infection decides to grow deeper/move down since it can't go up and your acne actually gets worse. (this is why if it's been more than a certain number of hours or a wound is from a really dirty source -like a deep dog bite- we actually DON'T suture a laceration, or suture it with very loose stitches, so infection won't be trapped deep in and form an abscess.)

Originally Posted by 71L

My understanding is that Bill Kennedy, a Pharmacist with a family attachment to the Dairy business, here in Ohio, was indeed developing it for dairy milk cow use, but had the simultaneous idea that its antibacterial and hypoallergenic properties would make it ideal for Hospital use as well. It became incredible popular in the hospitals, which could hardly keep it in stock in the Oncology units. Apparently, the Amish here in Ohio also discovered it, particularly the women quilters, which became their next big customer segment. It really only became mainstream with the public after someone mentioned it on Oprah, at which point his kids were now running the business, and that's when it popped up in Walgreens, CVS, Target, Walmart, etc.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

We are testing the Udderly here at home for acne,, my son suffers from it & takes medication for it, with little help,,, we started the Udderly first thing in the morning , after a shower & the medicine at night after a shower. This has been going on 6 days with a very noticeable improvement. We will keep this routine going a month to see what happens.

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For the past 5 weeks Udderly Smooth has been used in my son's daily regiment for acne.

He has severe acne & has been treated by a dermatologist for the past 2 years, not a lot of progress, but some.

He starts his day with a shower & uses an antibacterial soap(many tried) , acne (over the counter soaps) have been tried also, on his face.
Then he rubs Udderly Smooth into his face.

He ends the day with a shower & antibacterial soap, then a medicine named Tretinoin Cream .025% on his face, prescribed by his dermatologist.

The results have been nothing short of unbelievable, there is a decrease of at least 80% in the surface pimples, blackheads & a 95%
decrease in the below surface "cysts" that really get bad. As a matter of fact, he just got a small cyst yesterday, the first in a month.

I don't know if its the bacteria barrier that Udderly Smooth provides, but for acne treatment,,, we are staying with it.

That's awesome to hear Hirlau! I'm glad it's working so well for your son's acne, and if any of my pt's suffer from bad acne in the future, I can recommend it to them (not many people come to the ER for acne... but if it's an incidental secondary finding that they have severe acne and have tried lots of things without improvement, I can suggest they give the Udderly Smooth a shot.)