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    This Kikuboshi razor I got a few days ago. I dont want hide it from you.





    The razor I got in NOS condition. I guess it comes from the sixties-seventies of the last century. Like me. We harmonize very well and I admire the perfect craftsmanship of the Japanese craftsmen. The blade is ground full-hollow and very fine. The sound is pleasant restraint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lotse View Post
    This Kikuboshi razor I got a few days ago. I dont want hide it from you.

    The razor I got in NOS condition. I guess it comes from the sixties-seventies of the last century. Like me. We harmonize very well and I admire the perfect craftsmanship of the Japanese craftsmen. The blade is ground full-hollow and very fine. The sound is pleasant restraint.
    Very nice Jean, I have a NOS Japanese Hayashi Diamond 8000 coming in from Japan in the next few weeks I've been after this razor for a long time finally manged to get one I'll put a few photo's up when it comes in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lotse View Post
    This Kikuboshi razor I got a few days ago. I dont want hide it from you.





    The razor I got in NOS condition. I guess it comes from the sixties-seventies of the last century. Like me. We harmonize very well and I admire the perfect craftsmanship of the Japanese craftsmen. The blade is ground full-hollow and very fine. The sound is pleasant restraint.
    I had one of those and it was a top notch shaver. Kikuboshi made some high quality razors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by celticcrusader View Post
    Very nice Jean, I have a NOS Japanese Hayashi Diamond 8000 coming in from Japan in the next few weeks I've been after this razor for a long time finally manged to get one I'll put a few photo's up when it comes in.
    Oh Jamie! The Hayashi Diamond 8000 is certainly the Japanese razor with the most "glamorous appeal". I await with interest your pictures and prepare myself for the worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lotse View Post
    Oh Jamie! The Hayashi Diamond 8000 is certainly the Japanese razor with the most "glamorous appeal". I await with interest your pictures and prepare myself for the worst.
    I got one ( Hayashi Diamond 8000) a few weeks ago, looked nice and the price was awesome, when I received it, too much rust under and around the covered tang, the blade had been honed incorrectly to the point that the blade lost about 20% as you went from the heel to the toe.

    This was a very respected Japanese seller, I've bought a few razors from him, all spectacular, he doesn't take returns, but I wrote him and said this was unacceptable, nothing in the description and the pictures were set so you couldn't really see.

    He was great, agreed to full refund, everything worked out great.

    Week or so later, there was the same razor, same pics, same price, back up for sale.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrank View Post
    I got one ( Hayashi Diamond 8000) a few weeks ago, looked nice and the price was awesome, when I received it, too much rust under and around the covered tang, the blade had been honed incorrectly to the point that the blade lost about 20% as you went from the heel to the toe.

    This was a very respected Japanese seller, I've bought a few razors from him, all spectacular, he doesn't take returns, but I wrote him and said this was unacceptable, nothing in the description and the pictures were set so you couldn't really see.

    He was great, agreed to full refund, everything worked out great.

    Week or so later, there was the same razor, same pics, same price, back up for sale.....
    I think I saw that razor Andrew bad luck but a good result in the end, keep looking another will hopefully pop up in the near future.
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    About a month ago I bought my first Japanese razor(Feather AC don't count), a NOS Rosette 40, Ribbon razor(manufactured by Kikuboshi if I'm not mistaken).

    It's a shorty razor with a blade length of 58mm, blade width of about 22mm and a thick spine that measures 7mm, it's a half hollow shoulderless grind.

    It's a great razor, so great in fact that it's quickly become one of my favourites and I've been using it almost exclusively since I got it.

    Almost exactly a month after i got the Rosette(little more than a week ago) I bought a NOS "Hayashi Diamond 888, Extra steel Best hollow ground", the backside of the tang is stamped: "For barbers' use, First quality"

    The Hayashi is the same razor that's discussed in Sharpton's(I'm posting a new thread in the workshop to discuss that further) post that might have a Cell rot, if it is cell rot I might still be lucky in that it's possible that it's only the wedge that is made of celluloid(since the black spots were only near the toe), I gather that the number '8' is a lucky number in Japan so maybe that's a good sign.

    I've shaved with it once so far and it's a very nice shaver but the edge needs some more tuning in before I'm completely satisfied and I've gotten so used to the Rosette's 58mm blade that the Hayashi's 70mm felt a bit cumbersome when I tried it(why is 70mm(ish) the standard anyway?).

    It's a half hollow and the blade is remarkably thin, I think it might even be the thinnest I've seen.

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    Link to workshop thread:

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/forge...u-diamond.html
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    Just got this one and the marks seem to have either been tamper or never been stamped right in the first place, but there is some markings. Anybody want to make an educated guess on the make?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxxer View Post
    About a month ago I bought my first Japanese razor(Feather AC don't count), a NOS Rosette 40, Ribbon razor(manufactured by Kikuboshi if I'm not mistaken).

    It's a shorty razor with a blade length of 58mm, blade width of about 22mm and a thick spine that measures 7mm, it's a half hollow shoulderless grind.

    It's a great razor, so great in fact that it's quickly become one of my favourites and I've been using it almost exclusively since I got it.

    Almost exactly a month after i got the Rosette(little more than a week ago) I bought a NOS "Hayashi Diamond 888, Extra steel Best hollow ground", the backside of the tang is stamped: "For barbers' use, First quality"

    The Hayashi is the same razor that's discussed in Sharpton's(I'm posting a new thread in the workshop to discuss that further) post that might have a Cell rot, if it is cell rot I might still be lucky in that it's possible that it's only the wedge that is made of celluloid(since the black spots were only near the toe), I gather that the number '8' is a lucky number in Japan so maybe that's a good sign.

    I've shaved with it once so far and it's a very nice shaver but the edge needs some more tuning in before I'm completely satisfied and I've gotten so used to the Rosette's 58mm blade that the Hayashi's 70mm felt a bit cumbersome when I tried it(why is 70mm(ish) the standard anyway?).

    It's a half hollow and the blade is remarkably thin, I think it might even be the thinnest I've seen.

    Rosette:

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    This was the only picture that adequately captured the contrast between blade and tang that you get on shoulderless razors:
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Views: 1924
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    Hayashi:
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    Link to workshop thread:

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/forge...u-diamond.html
    Interesting bit on the Rosette razor, Baxxer. I bought an 80 and a 40. Both were NOS. The 80 is a bit longer than the 40 but is still a short affair. They shave awesome. In emailing with the seller, he told me his father sold these back in the 50's/60's. He explained that R. Saito was the founder of a hairdressing school and was quite famous back then. His styles were top-shelf and his name well-known. He designed razors which were built by big companies with his name upon them. We have all seen the curvaceous Saito 1, 2, and 3 which are of his design such as this:
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    As I was told, the Ribbon/ Rosette 40 and 80 were designed for students of hairdressing schools in Japan by Saito, made by Diamond Hayashi, and held a monopoly for the purpose.
    They were designed by him to be the easiest-to use shaver made. I must agree as mine have awesome smiling edges and super tight pivots, short, yet wide. Fun to use!

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    I have also responded to your workshop thread as to your Diamond Hayishi razor's possible issues.
    "Don't be stubborn. You are missing out."
    I rest my case.

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    That's some interesting stuff.

    So I've got two razors made by Diamond Hayashi, not just one, and one of them was designed by R. Saito?

    I know that if I ever end up having too much money I'll be buying myself an R. Saito SK2, maybe I'll even get an SK1 and SK3 too if I somehow get really rich.
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