Thread: That 1700's Show

Due to the lack of stamp after somebody’s overeager restoration, or the lack of there ever being a stamp it’s kind of a shot in the dark to accurately date this blade. I have attached a picture from an old Lummus article that I found, noting the very long, strange tang on these lead them to believe they are pre-stub tail. Regardless, it is a very unique razor. All thoughts and insight are appreciated.

It's hard to say but it also has a longer tail on it rather than a stub tail. Too bad someone butchered it!

The trouble I see while not saying its true is that someone could have made it in their garage in Arkansas 3 years ago.

Lol while I also hope that’s not true, that would be something

Any idea about these two fellas? I've got them a while a ago and unfortunately I can't seems to put a date/identification to it





Notice the hole-shaped dent in the metal, i'm wondering if it's a pre-drilled hole that was later filled or just a bad first-attempt marking on the metal for a future hole. By looking at the washers I don't think this razor was ever disassembled from it's scales though

[QUOTE=OrSh;1964642]Any idea about these two fellas? I've got them a while a ago and unfortunately I can't seems to put a date/identification to it



French frameback with interchangeable blades. Probable dating from 1810-1830. Probably from a weekly set like this with identical blade release mechanism.

Sorry I can't help, but I'd have to say mid 1800s, being their frambacks. Possibly French origin.

Framebacks appear in France much earlier than in England

from the Almanac Bottin
"13 juin 1821 – Brevet d'invention de 5 ans pour des Machines propres à fabriquer les rasoirs à baguettes, Ou dos postiche, et d'autres articles de coutellerie, Aux sieurs Treboul , à Beaune , et F. Bernard , à Couard-Iès-Autun, département de Saône-et-Loire."

(June 13, 1821 – Patent of invention for 5 years for Machines suitable for manufacturing razors with chopsticks, or false backs, and other cutlery articles, To sieurs Treboul, in Beaune, and F. Bernard, in Couard- Iès-Autun, department of Saône-et-Loire.)

pair of François Bernard De Couard (1788-1831)

Then I doubt their earlier than those, being they seem to have removable blades. Which i believe came at the later part of frameback life.

But I don't claim to be an expert, in razor history. Just by those that I've restored over the year's. Only a few of French design, like this Bencini.

Originally Posted by outback

Sorry I can't help, but I'd have to say mid 1800s, being their frambacks. Possibly French origin.

It looks like only the top one is a frame back from the way it looks in the picture. The bottom one has the crown and what looks like an R present which appears to be a regal stamp but the specific monarch's letter designation (probably G for George IV) is not visible. Seems as though from what I've read that they didn't start the monarch stamps until him but that would date it at 1820 at the earliest. That is of course if that's what that stamp is. That's what it looks like at least.
Hopefully Zak will chime in as he is the authority on these old puppies.