Thread: That 1700's Show

I don't know if either of these are actually that old, but here are two very old razors. Photo 1 says... actually I don't remember, I think W(crown) R over Warranted. Photo 2 is bad, but it's a Clark & Hall similar to the one Dwarven posted.

Those two look well into the 1800 tang slim down period. Is that Clark N Hall yours??

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

I don't know if either of these are actually that old, but here are two very old razors. Photo 1 says... actually I don't remember, I think W(crown) R over Warranted. Photo 2 is bad, but it's a Clark & Hall similar to the one Dwarven posted.

W crown R is probably William the Fourth who ruled between 1830 to 1837. An oldie for sure and probably not seen often, with only a seven year reign.

I assume a Royal Warrant was issued during his reign, but I don't know who to.... maybe. Don't take that as gospel. Can't find any decision one way or the other.

Gentlemen, I'd like if I may to submit this razor for your appraisal. I know nothing about it yet, in fact it's a very recent acquisition, thrown in with another much fancier one by the shopkeeper to clinch the deal. My guess is: old.

The mark seems to be something like "ARANTIA":

If anyone can throw any light on this one, I'd be grateful. It's doubtful whether this will become a working member of the collection, because the lack of a tang alarms me a great deal.

Just wanted to interject here...was checking this thread out...You all have awesome looking older style razors.Love the blade shapes ! Wish a company would start making some of theses styles again

Originally Posted by Arrowhead

Gentlemen, I'd like if I may to submit this razor for your appraisal. I know nothing about it yet, in fact it's a very recent acquisition, thrown in with another much fancier one by the shopkeeper to clinch the deal. My guess is: old.

The mark seems to be something like "ARANTIA":

If anyone can throw any light on this one, I'd be grateful. It's doubtful whether this will become a working member of the collection, because the lack of a tang alarms me a great deal.

I dont know if somebody answered or not but ide bet that reads Garantie wich is warranted in french .........

Originally Posted by Martin103

I dont know if somebody answered or not but ide bet that reads Garantie wich is warranted in french .........

It's "Garantie" (for l'acier fondu : cast steel) under it's "à Lantie" ?? it's a name of place, in France in the beginnig of the XIX century, in evry small town were a seller of cutelery objects that was ordering from larger factories razors that bear the factories stamped with his name and/or place.
The bone's scales on this razor are typical form the 1800-1815 period.
Langres and Chatelrault was tow cutelery's centers then famous for making razors for every resellers.

Here's my submission, somewhone knows these manufacturers and if the fit in the 1700's?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Fikira

Here's my submission, somewhone knows these manufacturers and if the fit in the 1700's?

Thanks!

I just noticed - is that spelled wrong? It looks like it says "REFIEND". Is that supposed to be refined?

Originally Posted by Fikira

Here's my submission, somewhone knows these manufacturers and if the fit in the 1700's?

Thanks!

Those that have no distinct transition between cutting edge and tang, a stub monkey tail, and straight (parallel) scales with no curve, are 1700s. The distinct transition of a tang to edge came in the early 1800s. Somewhere around 1810 to 1820 the scales began to have a slight curve. All this from "Collecting Straight Razors" by Robert A. Doyle. No idea about who made 'em.