Either or. Ive bought some old vintages that looked ok but were much more work than a GD. The GD will have plenty of steel though and no hone wear when you start. The vintage you could get one almost shave ready. GDS can be honed without grinding anything if you know how. The 200s(red scales are much better than the 66s. My first new Dovo was much worse than any GD i have ever seen. Crooked spine, short at the toe. Try a few of each!