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Size:  32.7 KBI was hoping to get some info on this razor? It says Zaliel on the blade with a "2" on each side? I was also wondering if anyone knows where I would be able to get new scales for it? thanks so much!! -BRETT-

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    According to Goins' this razor was made by the Zaliel Cutlery Works, Solingen, Germany sometime between 1915 and 1922. The works was owned by Z.D. Jassiano. I have one that is marked Zaliel Jassiano.

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    Walt, thanks so much! If you dont mind my asking..how do you like it? I only ask because for some odd reason this razor strikes me as being interesting? I wanted some input before I go ahead and try to make it shave ready. thanks man -BRETT-

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    Looks like Walt beat me to it, but this is what I found.

    Here are the results of my amateur sleuthing.

    After doing a little research on Google, here is what I found. Zaliel Cutlery was owned by Zaliel D. Jassiano and was originally based out of Solingen Germany. It looks like Mr. Zaliel moved to NY in the mid 1920s.
    The links below go to google copies of documents showing Zaliel applying for a Cutlery Mark on 24 Jan of 1921(?). He then applied for a patent of the name at the US patent office. Patent # 152330 for Razors, Pocket knives and scissors. This was filed 8/29/1391 and published 1/24/1922
    The only hiccup I have found with this is a Carl Melcher also shows up as the maker owner for the Zaliel mark. (German Bladesmiths by John Walter (http://www.archivingindustry.com/Pub...lermarks-1.pdf) Carl Melcher is also credited with the ELSA, ELISTA, and GUMESCO marks as well. Maybe he was the actual maker who contracted out, or people bought his blades and branded them as their own.

    PATENT:
    Official Gazette of the United States Patent Office - United States. Patent Office - Google Books

    CUTLER MARK REGISTRY
    American Cutler: Devoted to the News and Interests of the Cutlery Trade ... - Google Books
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    Quote Originally Posted by barberbrett View Post
    Walt, thanks so much! If you dont mind my asking..how do you like it?
    I don't know. I bought it about three years ago and have never used it.

    Regards - Walt
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    Have you considered making some scales yourself ?
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    To be honest I havnt! But since you mentioned it, I have been researching scale building online and am finding it may not be as hard as I thought? So I think im going to give it a shot! thanks -BRETT

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