Thread: 18th century razor, unknown

Originally Posted by Voidmonster

Any idea why some of the marks were effaced?

Probably a trademark infringement!

There is also a similiar plate from French Cutlers from Thiers, struck on zinc but it only goes back to 1810.

Originally Posted by Martin103

Probably a trademark infringement!

There is also a similiar plate from French Cutlers struck on zinc but it only goes back to 1810.

That one's nice and orderly compared to the Châtellerault one!

I'm reminded all over again how much I need to learn French, not least of which so I can easily participate in the discussions about my razors on the Coupe Chou Club forum.

It does look like a crown over an orb. I also find it very reminiscent of some of these Toledan armourer's marks but as you believe it to be French this may not be relavent.

That IS interesting! Toledan!

Originally Posted by Voidmonster

I completely agree with Thaeris. French, very early 1800's, ivory and silver.

The famous plaque of cutlers marks in Châtellerault has several that are similar, but those marks are only useful for guessing whether or not it was made in Châtellerault, since they don't record the names of the people who struck them. Plus, I believe those marks are quite old. Pre-1700.

I've misplaced the link to the page of marks from the Thiers region, or I'd check there too.

This might be the page from Thiers that you posted before, apologies if I got the wrong one:

Les Marques des Couteaux de THIERS

Originally Posted by Phrank

This might be the page from Thiers that you posted before, apologies if I got the wrong one:

Les Marques des Couteaux de THIERS

That's the one! Thank you! (Now I've properly bookmarked it)

How an interesting discusión !!, I din´t know french razors has all this information in. I´m sure in the firs times all razors in europe were quite similar, and the marks sure a guild marks, in this case here the guilds desapear in the paper with a royal order at the begining of the 18th century, really not untly 1850 more ore less and in landscape the blacksmith marks conserv guild marks untli the last years of the 19th century, after the normal marks were som of the initial letter of the blacksmith name, but razor here¡¡¡¡ no, only axes, sickles and another land use tools. One axemple, scissors in the late years of the 18th century with the Toledo matrk (TO) and guild mark, (a shell), and them another by the same date withe the new marks only a letter.


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And another french page you sure know with a lot of information mainlly about militar french razors
Dream_Razor

Completly dated, used by the king Louis XVI in the haill befor....well he lost the head, to me in the form is the most similar, regards