Thread: Terry's no.3 identification help please

Looks like a great find!

I have a Norton 4k/8k and can not get a razor to pass a HHT off of the stone. I need to strop with Iron oxide paste, then leather to get a HHT-4. which gives an OK shave, but still a little stubble left on the chin. I'm still learning to hone, and I haven't been able to get anything better than that.

The Ohishi 8k should be finer than the Norton if it is JIS which Norton is not. So you may be able to get a good edge off it without paste.

I'm thinking about getting the Ohisihi 8k/3k as well. Hopefully someone else can chime in with experience on these hones.

Thanks jabber.

Can you expand on your abbreviations please?

I know HHT but HHT-4 and JIS? While I'm at it I've seen YMMV. What do all these mean?

I got the HHT abreviations from here: http://www.coticule.be/hanging-hair-test.html
HHT-3 is catch and pop hair, HHT-4 is Pop hair, HHT-5 is sever hair cleanly. For me I can't shave with anything less than HHT-4 with the hair I'm using. Of course, YMMV you need to calibrate with the hair you are using. If you have a great shaving edge and a reliable and repeatable source of hair test the edge to see what it does. I bought a small pack of hair extensions from a beauty supply store.

JIS I believe is Japanese Industrial Standard. Most synthetic water stones are rated with this system. Nortons as I understand use their own system and a Norton 8k is around 6k JIS

Nice razor! Someone will come along with info soon!
Unfamiliar with Ohishi, (I use 4/8 Norton) but an 8k should make a good shave. Most go to a 12k or so after, but as learning to get a good shave from the 8k, the higher grit is smooth and effective bonus! I don't recommend to make a big deal on levels of HHT, IMO. The only time I use hair-popping is being sure it pops hairs off of the 1k before moving up. It's all in the shave!

Nice. I think I need to get a 1k hone to make sure a good bevel is set. It isn't even in thickness along the blade and each side isn't even.

Yes, Trenchy, remember that a good, sharp bevel is an absolute requirement before moving up in grits. A bevel can be accomplished with ,say, a 4k stone, but it will take forever sometimes!
Razors from antique stores and Ebay have usually been inactive for a long while. No telling who has done what to them in the past. Always best to tape the spine and dig out YOUR sharp bevel before proceeding.

Exactly bud. Will order one tomorrow. Think it is worth getting the 220/1k to match my other hone? Or just a 1k? Any recommendations?

1k's are pretty basic beasts, it seems. The 220/1k Norton can be had cheaply. Not much use here for the 220, but enough 1k there to last you a loooong time. I have heard the King and chosera are good, have not tried them. I think the Naniwa is faster than the Norton. Both have served me well.

Some pics. You can see that one side, the bevel in the middle is the smallest , but on the other side it is the biggest! So bloody confusing!

That suggests that the spine is deformed - you can check by holding a straight edge either side. Choosing this razor for your first attempt at honing is unfortunate - if I were you I'd get something you know is OK and build up the basic honing skills first before attempting to master advanced methods.