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06-12-2014, 10:17 PM #1
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Thanked: 1I really hope that typo doesn't haunt me on here forever.
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06-12-2014, 10:52 PM #2
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06-12-2014, 11:32 PM #3
Post-ban Ivory has always been illegal the problem is there is this unending supply of pre ban stuff out there which means you know what. That is why the new regs.
Under the old regs there were certain categories you could import if you had the documents to prove it. Personal sanctioned hunts and heard culling are examples of valid ways to import.
Otherwise you need to understand most enforcement action is taken by U.S Customs not Dept of Agriculture for a variety of reasons but Customs has two separate enforcement avenues. They have Criminal and Civil. if you brought some illegal ivory into the U.S for personal use and it was a small quantity they would never even attempt to prosecute you because the burden is on them to prove you knowingly imported the stuff in violation of law and that's near impossible. However under the civil statutes they will confiscate what you have and that's the end of it. if you have a large quantity then they would go after you for civil money penalties. In civil proceedings the burden shifts to you the importer.
Of course under the new statutes it simplifies things cause it's now plain illegal with a few exceptions.
As to differences between elephant and mammoth it's very easy to tell with some magnification cause the lines that run through the material run differently. One is at 90 degree angles and the other is at different ones.No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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06-13-2014, 03:29 AM #4
I've bought and sold ivory scaled razor for a few years now and never had a problem. I doubt that anyone is really going to spot that razor scales are actually ivory anyway
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06-14-2014, 06:50 PM #5
i feel a little bit out of the loop. i didn't realize that ivory was banned. is that an american thing?
i'm pretty sure you can still get it up here in canada.instagram - @suckerpunch_daycare
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06-14-2014, 07:52 PM #6
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Thanked: 4822It is banned here too, although I'm not sure of all of the implications here, certainly importation of raw requires a ton of paperwork to ensure it is pre ban but I've always just stuck my head in the sand and pretended I didn't know. I think there is a definite risk of confection and for what we do they probably would stop there, there is the bigger risk of getting stuck in their computer and they make every crossing of the border a royal pain. They have enough power that they can make your activities all very annoying. All without ever having to charge you or have to account for why they are always annoying.
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06-14-2014, 08:18 PM #7
i was more referring to ivory that is harvested in canada from walrus or narwhal.
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06-14-2014, 08:59 PM #8
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06-15-2014, 04:49 AM #9
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