Thanks a bunch for the comments/info. I have been using a straight now for about a month. I have never been to ebay until 2 weeks ago. (or Amazon) I will soon be married for 25 years. Having said that, I do not think I will see 26 if I order anything else from one of these companies I now even have camel bones in my house, and my daughter thinks I have lost it as well. I will look for these books though and thanks a bunch.