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    I do not consider that anyone who has seen the pics posted in this thread is labouring under the wrong impression. The swastikas shown are depicted:

    With the Imperial German Eagle, a nazi emlem,
    on the side of a WW2 german helmet, a nazi emblem,
    with the SS insignia, a nazi emblem,
    with a WW2 iron cross, a nazi emblem, and
    with the eagle again, a nazi emblem.

    The only ones to be excused are those reading this forum in braille or listening to it on radio, scenarios as unlikely as an adult confusing the evil intent of the nazi reworking of the swastika with the former innocent good luck charm.

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    Ownership of these items is a personal choice.

    As far as owning a tv or car made in Germany or Japan. 70 years changes the past to the present. If this is applied to past enemies of the US, you would have to consider that we battled the British on our own soil twice. So much for a Sheffield razor.

    IMO, a death camp is a much more of a piece of history showing the atrocities of the past than a set of razors.

    Ownership of Nazi items (razors, Youth knife or a SS uniform) is not preserving history. Look at all the swastika tattoos some people have, I do not think they were trying to preserve history as much as showing hatred towards people.

    To understand the past, a museum or standing in a death camp will give you feeling of how evil this period of time was.

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    I would be willing to bet if you showed a picture of a Nazi Swastika to 20 people and then showed them the normal kind 18 of the 20 would not notice the difference and probably similar have never heard of a non Nazi Swastika.

    Much of this has to do with intent. Why would someone collect Nazi paraphernalia? Is it because it's a purely historical thing to them and a future investment and nothing more or do they have some emotional attachment to what it represents and agree with Nazi politics and philosophy?
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    I bet that if you pulled 30 random kids from their high school classroom, ,, no more than 5 would even know what the Swastika emblem was,,, & ,,,, I bet no more than 8 could tell you what a Nazi was,,, that's the real problem today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirlau View Post
    I bet that if you pulled 30 random kids from their high school classroom, ,, no more than 5 would even know what the Swastika emblem was,,, & ,,,, I bet no more than 8 could tell you what a Nazi was,,, that's the real problem today.
    As someone from Hong Kong, all of the Swastika symbols I've seen at temples, schools, etc, have all been reversed. One of my friends from India has also said they are reversed.

    And although not quite what you were talking about, there's a thing called goldwins law which states that, the longer an Internet argument goes in for, the higher the likelihood of someone comparing their opponent to Hitler/ Nazi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenrab View Post
    ...And although not quite what you were talking about, there's a thing called goldwins law which states that, the longer an Internet argument goes in for, the higher the likelihood of someone comparing their opponent to Hitler/ Nazi.
    All heil to that - er, I think I meant hail!

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    The Swastika icon has been used by many, many more cultures and people prior to the Nazi Party adopting it.

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    This shot of a Native American Basketball team and the link attaching to an article written by Robert Baden-Powell (of Boy Scout fame)
    Baden-Powell: "What Scouts Can Do--More Yarns" pretty much demonstrate this insignia had a revered history prior to the Nazis turning it into an abomination......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirlau View Post
    I bet that if you pulled 30 random kids from their high school classroom, ,, no more than 5 would even know what the Swastika emblem was,,, & ,,,, I bet no more than 8 could tell you what a Nazi was,,, that's the real problem today.

    If I may:
    From my own observations I can report that German high schools kids have no problem identifying the Third Reich swastika and telling your what it was all about.

    Which is reassuring, as it proves my belief that people(s) can learn from past mistakes.
    Which in turn will allow us to move forward and strike allegiances - and even close friendships - with former enemies (e.g. moving on from the War of Revolution all the way to Churchill's "Special Relationship" speech).

    It's just the idea of some people being prepared to pay a premium for some (rather useless) Nazi paraphernalia with no historical value that is troubling me.

    Buying such souvenirs and thereby paying indirectly homage to a regime like the Third Reich strikes me as plainly wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Miller View Post
    The only ones to be excused are those reading this forum in braille or listening to it on radio, scenarios as unlikely as an adult confusing the evil intent of the nazi reworking of the swastika with the former innocent good luck charm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    We actually have a blind member who reads SRP in braille. Don't know if he is still active. He once asked if someone could help him with a captcha on another website, which is how I know. Because I was curious, I did shave blindfolded a couple of times. Turns out this is easier than one might think.
    FWIW I too am able to follow this forum thanks to that wonderful invention, broil... sorry, I'll just touch that again...

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