what brands of razors are still being made like dovo,dorko,filiarmonic,boker,henckle?

**ecormier** · 11-05-2014, 04:45 PM

Dovo, Thiers Issard, Boker to name a couple, and by nature they must be done by hand.... I don't think you'd ever get consistency trying to get a machine to auto-make a grind or a bevel

**BobH** · 11-05-2014, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by ecormier

Dovo, Thiers Issard, Boker to name a couple, and by nature they must be done by hand.... I don't think you'd ever get consistency trying to get a machine to auto-make a grind or a bevel

Yea, Dovo just did some adjusting to the number of models that will be available from them in the future to try and decrease the wait times for delivery. Seems young Germans don't find a 10 year apprenticeship to learn how to grind razors an attractive proposition. So hardly stamped out like cookies, much hand work is involved.

Bob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b_nRYltQ-Y

**pixelfixed** · 11-05-2014, 05:40 PM

With todays CNC technology it would be very simple to make a perfect Blade in a matter of minutes.

**BobH** · 11-05-2014, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

With todays CNC technology it would be very simple to make a perfect Blade in a matter of minutes.

Could be but there must be a reason why none seem to be doing it.

Bob

**pixelfixed** · 11-05-2014, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by BobH

Could be but there must be a reason why none seem to be doing it.

Bob

Market is not worth the cost of tooling up to do it.

**Haroldg48** · 11-05-2014, 07:24 PM

Ralf Aust's are also hand made.

**BobH** · 11-05-2014, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

Market is not worth the cost of tooling up to do it.

That easily could be also. At some point when you can't get enough highly skilled craftsmen or the market expands you might see it. They can screw that up too by paying crap to the worker who sets up the pieces for CNC machining.

CNC machining helped Winchester re introduce the controlled round feed of the pre 64 action in 1992 so it does work to cut costs. Too bad they are made in Portugal now probably as a cost saving measure also.

Bob

**ocelot27** · 11-05-2014, 10:55 PM

I agree - with the right CNC you can machine any material to tolerances that would never be possible doing it by hand. I think it would be cool to have a razor that was dimensionally perfect down to the 1/10,000 of an inch. Also, remember machines already make billions of razor blades for disposable razors every year - so the edge is easily attainable too. The romance of having something hand made is attractive as well - I like the subtle imperfections in even the most expensive razors.

-john

**Geezer** · 11-07-2014, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

With todays CNC technology it would be very simple to make a perfect Blade in a matter of minutes.

That is great for knives and the lovely hollow grinds they often get. You have all seen vids of harmonic vibration getting out of control. If a thin razor "sings" that is vibration and if it happens during a grind the sing is modified into a harmonic oscillation which, unfortunately will twist and wiggle the blade. When that happens, the blade will basically explode. The touch of a master grinder detect any vibration other than abrasion and modifies the stroke and speed of advance. A pre-hardening grind would be a different story and the metal is not hard.

So even renewing a blade, if I hear a singing I "STOP' and do a different approach.

Here's a video of the singing vibration on a plate. Imagine a XXii razor!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YedgubRZva8

YGMV= your guess may vary
~Richard

**Phrank** · 11-07-2014, 03:53 AM

That was undeniably, completely utterly cool and I did not know that...

Thanks Geezer!

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