Thanks for info on the Friodur knives. I currently us the Forschner kitchen knives. I think I'll try one of the Henckels next time I go to Smokey Mountain Knifes works. I've been using these mainly because the butchers in my area use them. The stay sharp but a bear to hone. I look forward to some day going to a meet and maybe seeing and talking to other members in person. Again Thanks.