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03-28-2015, 09:30 PM #1
The watchword is GEOMETRY. If it has been altered it will never shave well no matter what you do short of regrinding it. The original geometry must be intact enough so it can be properly honed.
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04-10-2015, 11:50 PM #2
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Thanked: 4200They should call them kamisortatiny's.
Just received my pair and they are delicate little things compared to a traditional straight.
Trying to hone them up on a coti. So it's more strokes on the stamped front face than the rear, soft metal fat side as I read up.
Like 7:3 front to back, heavier pressure on the 3 than the 7?
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04-11-2015, 12:02 AM #3
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Thanked: 25No. The stamped face (which you have showing in your pic) gets less honing strokes, the other side gets more strokes.
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04-11-2015, 12:36 AM #4
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Here's the backside shot.
The how tos I read seem to contradict each other and I wasn't sure.
Thanks for the help..
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04-11-2015, 05:27 PM #5
This is indeed the tradtional way.
Personally, I found it easier to do it the other way around, as there is much less steel to remove on the stamp side. I got the idea when someone (I think it was Bart Torfs) described how to hone a microtome razor to have a real "shaving with a microtome" experience i.e. like a plane: one side only, the other side only enough to prevent a burr. It makes more sense to me.
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04-11-2015, 08:39 PM #6
This is probably because most razors that people buy are in need of restoration & a proper geometry needs to be set up. In this case it may be necessary to start on the back or "stamped side but as mentioned for usual honing the front or non stamped side gets more honing.
Here is a restoration thread I did a while ago.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/advan...e-restore.html“The white gleam of swords, not the black ink of books, clears doubts and uncertainties and bleak outlooks.”
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04-11-2015, 12:40 AM #7
Look for Glen's honing a Kamisori. It is really easy to destroy one that is on the edge. He uses English and the method worked well for me.
https://youtu.be/dNCVe3Alye8
https://youtu.be/iRIQ3_6Cs5o
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04-11-2015, 01:28 AM #8
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04-11-2015, 05:58 AM #9
Ok.... I watched Glen's video on sharpening a Kamisori..... And what to look for..... BUT What is a good brand of Kamisori razor and maybe which ones are junk? I can't read Japanese.....lol
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04-11-2015, 08:19 AM #10
Willisf,
I was very much in the same boat as you.
I bought my kamisori (two (2) Henkotsu, one NOS, one vintage restored) from Mr. Milton of Japanese-Razor Japanese Kamisori Razor and Straight Razors - KAMISORI Razors For Sale
He is a very nice chappie to do business with.
I suppose the most recognised name for quality kamisori would be Iwasaki.
For new buy, the 'Kanetaka' seem to be relatively abundant :
Japanese Iwasaki razors
There are many quality kamisori out there, with names most have not heard off, so it is a bit of a lottery.
Have fun
Best regards
Russ