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    Hello All,

    I've read the really informative thread about [Crown] WR razors, being from the King William era--1830 to 1837, but I've come across another mark on the tang of a straight razor that I can't identify and don't know what it means... a smaller "P" under the crown, WR stamp. Any idea what this mark is, what it means? Thanks in advance for any help/information/guidance you can give. I've attached some images of the razor and hope these help.

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    The WR stamp is solid but the makers stamp is almost gone, and that "p" is pretty much all that is left of the original stamp. I've heard it said a million times when doing restoration work, stay off the stamp, otherwise it makes it very difficult to figure out who made the razor. I have no idea how many razor makers used the WR stamp, but I think it is a short list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RezDog View Post
    The WR stamp is solid but the makers stamp is almost gone, and that "p" is pretty much all that is left of the original stamp. I've heard it said a million times when doing restoration work, stay off the stamp, otherwise it makes it very difficult to figure out who made the razor. I have no idea how many razor makers used the WR stamp, but I think it is a short list.
    Thanks RezDog. In taking a closer look at the stamp, there never has been any other mark except that "P" Usually there are other indents, remnants of marks, SOMETHING left, but this is all by itself. Given the depth and legibility and placement of the crown and WR...and the opposite-facing "P" I'd say it would have been impossible to erase completely the maker's stamp/name and just leave that "P." When I got the razor it was in pretty bad shape cosmetically, and I hand rubbed away the patina around that Crown and WR...and that "P" was all that was there, both before I removed the patina and after.

    Any clue about the possible makers from that "short list" you mention? Could it have stood for something else...just seems odd that it is facing the other way and is all by itself. I can't find anything about it online. Thanks again for your response and anything else you--or the other razor gurus--can contribute.

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    I'm sorry maybe its the picture or lighting but it looks like the remnant of a "B" to me. I'M not sure. Just my 2¢ to muddy the waters.
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    Here's another image of it....hard to keep the camera still to get a good shot of it. Hope this helps. And thankful for any light that can be shed on this.
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    This is the only thing I've seen that's close. Although I would have imagined they would have discontinued that stamp by the time of Williams reign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by appa69 View Post
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    This is the only thing I've seen that's close. Although I would have imagined they would have discontinued that stamp by the time of Williams reign.

    Thanks! That does look like it could be close...with some precision removal of the rest of the "R" I guess. I need to take another close look at the razor and see if it looks like the "P" once was an "R"... Aside from that, does anyone know what the "P" could have stood for? I saw once--from long-time seriouse collector of razors, the personal seven-day straight razor shaving set from King George V...and they didn't have anything on the tang except the crown and initials--way cool. This "P" has me flummoxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShavingPriest View Post
    Thanks! That does look like it could be close...with some precision removal of the rest of the "R" I guess. I need to take another close look at the razor and see if it looks like the "P" once was an "R"... Aside from that, does anyone know what the "P" could have stood for? I saw once--from long-time seriouse collector of razors, the personal seven-day straight razor shaving set from King George V...and they didn't have anything on the tang except the crown and initials--way cool. This "P" has me flummoxed.
    Could also be a, "B"....

    edited to add: wrong photo...trying to find the other one...on the tang of the razor is the Crown and the WR, followed by the Wade and Butcher...the P being a possible B??

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