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    Hello,
    I am new to forums and this site. I am trying to find out the difference between the Theirs-Issard spartacus and the Bijou de France razor blades. Does anybody know the difference between these two blades form Theirs-Issard? I am looking at getting into utilizing straight razors and can't find the difference between these two razors by Theirs-Issard. Thanks!

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    Don't know the difference but I just had two people call to have their razors honed. Both were Theirs Issard and both had to be replaced by the company because of rust. This tells me that the quality of the new features is not as good as the older ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouschie View Post
    Don't know the difference but I just had two people call to have their razors honed. Both were Theirs Issard and both had to be replaced by the company because of rust. This tells me that the quality of the new features is not as good as the older ones.
    what does rust have to do with quality? the best blades rust even better than the worst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyfish View Post
    Hello,
    I am new to forums and this site. I am trying to find out the difference between the Theirs-Issard spartacus and the Bijou de France razor blades. Does anybody know the difference between these two blades form Theirs-Issard? I am looking at getting into utilizing straight razors and can't find the difference between these two razors by Theirs-Issard. Thanks!
    Welcome SRP. Currently, if I'm not mistaken, Their-Issard is using C-135 steel on all of their razors. So differences in style of blade, scales, etchings, spine work .... or no spine work, would be all that could be classified as different. The steel is the same.

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    Don't know the difference but I just had two people call to have their razors honed. Both were Theirs Issard and both had to be replaced by the company because of rust. This tells me that the quality of the new features is not as good as the older ones.
    I don't understand the problem. Razors rust if they are not taken care of properly. Were these new in the box with rust ? I've had a many a TI and never had one come with rust. If they were rusty from the factory it is a problem, but I imagine an anomaly.
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    I only say this because both owners had the razors a short time and dried them after use. One went away free three days and returned to find rust all over the blade. I would think it might have to do with the quality of the steel. Only my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouschie View Post
    I only say this because both owners had the razors a short time and dried them after use. One went away free three days and returned to find rust all over the blade. I would think it might have to do with the quality of the steel. Only my opinion.
    I've got two here that I've had for 2 years, not a bit of rust anywhere and I don't oil or anything. Any carbon steel blade will rust if not dried and kept at a low humidity level)

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    My couple of Thiers are great shaving razors that have never rusted between uses which can sometimes be a month or two.

    You could do worse than a nice thiers. They, in my experience, do not come shave ready from the factory.
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    I thought this was a friendly community. We all have our own opinions. Don't understand the attack on my opinion. Please lets keep it friendly and a site where we can exchange ideas, knowledge and opinions.
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    It is a friendly site, but I think to say a high quality blade won't rust is just wrong... this is not opinion, and to suggest that a manufacturer has low standards because of that is not fair

    If a company sent them new to a customer with rust on...... that's a different matter
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    Bouchie, I don't think anyone is attacking your opinion, they are just don't share it.

    You could be correct that newer theirs razors are more prone to rusting, or it could be that they got some anomalous steel that isn't as good as it should be, or it could be that your 2 customers simply didn't look after their equipment properly.

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    Last edited by edhewitt; 09-28-2015 at 10:56 PM.
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