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    Good evening gents.
    I have acquired a brand new 7/8 extra hollow, carbon Thiers Issard razor. Being brand new I'd imagined perhaps a few strokes with a finisher (G 20k) to get it right. Now I've read that TI's can be tough to get shave ready. It can be easy to put it on stones until the cows come home. Do I need to? What views might you guys have re this? Last thing I want to do is grind away for no purpose. Your advice for these extra hollow TI's. It also has a decorative spine.

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    I've had 'em where they shaved great with nothing but a stropping, and I've had them where they needed to be honed. Try shaving and see where it is. One of them had a double bevel on one side and not the other, so if you have magnification take a looksee at the bevel.

    If you're lucky it won't require honing, or just a finisher, if you're not lucky you'll have to start from bevel setting. IME.
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    Thanks mate, I'll just see how it goes. TI say it's an extra full hollow, but nowhere do they say 'shave ready'....lol
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    I have one, had to send it to glen, brand new mind you. The steel is very hard and it takes forever to set a proper bevel. Once it's right, it's a fantastic shave.
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    A look under magnification will tell you all you need to know about the state of an edge.

    Did 4 TI's last week. All had what looked like incomplete bevels or some kind of 2ndry bevel set up. Quite sharp but maybe not easily maintainable for an owner.
    I suspect some kind of pasted sharpening at the factory.
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    I have honed two for customers from bevel set to finish. Didn't find it any different from other razors. Both came out great. If you need to hone check with straight edge to make sure spine is straight. Use tape just to protect spine. Good luck and enjoy.
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    Correct, they don't use hones they use progressive pastes. The initial bevel is normally large, so when honing on stones for the first time it takes some work to get the full bevel honed with the stone. That's why some probably have double bevels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prodigy View Post
    Correct, they don't use hones they use progressive pastes. The initial bevel is normally large, so when honing on stones for the first time it takes some work to get the full bevel honed with the stone. That's why some probably have double bevels.
    You don't have to hone the whole bevel, just get the the 2 sides to meet but because pastes can cover a multitude of sins with a bevel you may find the factory bevel quite irregular.
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    I think razor need some passages on stone. Start from 5k and go up. ..thiers are hard...so it's better for a good shaving . I sharpened one few days ago..
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    Here's my two. One honed by glen, one by me. Both are good now, but was not the case starting out. True, they don't have to touch, but it looks weird when they dont.

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