Has anyone noticed that most vendors are out of these? Is it possible that they've finally sold all 450 of them?
Regards,
EL
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Has anyone noticed that most vendors are out of these? Is it possible that they've finally sold all 450 of them?
Regards,
EL
They seem to have sold out the Egyptian Palmwood razors as well...
Shaving and Razor Shop in Antwerp are showing as having one in stock, although I know they sold one at the weekend as they were showing two when I looked on sunday.
http://www.shaving-and-razor-shop.co...s-Issard-e.htm
I thought about buying another one of these (I sold mine to joel) but the price is a little steep for me, I went with one of the limited edition horn covered tang models from classicshaving, which were forged around the same time.
Those horn covered tang models are rumored to also have been hand hammered by ol' Pierre himself. I heard that from Joel Ferman. I don't know how true but it seems plausible. I have one myself along with an historic Pierre Thiers Hammered. I'm thinking of selling both as I just don't use them. They're both very nice razors and both limited in number.
Regards,
EL
EL,
I was told the same thing by my contact at TI. I think the covered tang models were produced in even smaller numbers. I have 3 versions of those too, a just under 5/8 marked Sheffield, a just under 6/8 marked Sheffield and a just under 6/8 marked Spartacus, all with horn covered tangs and horn scales. I have one of the Pierre Thiers limited ones as well. Rarely used but a keeper.
I do have a discontinued Egyptian in Palmwood though one could twist my arm to part with <g>.
Tony
Yeah I heard similar - I was told to keep my mouth shut and not to let the secret out! :ziplip: :roflmao
Here's what they say about them at Knifecenter, who stock the eagle stamped version of the same razor.
Quote:
Collectible Eagle Brand Straight Razor Horn Handle and Bolsters-- From old forgings dating back to between 80 and 100 years old. Completely Hollowed, both sides mirror polished with gold leaf mark--Handle is blond solid horn, and "tail pieces" are also colored solid horn. Only 260 pcs. of these forgings are in existence.
A note from Thiers-Issard:
We no longer have the dies for these forgings. Very close to a current 5/8" size. The forged "gorge" or ferrule makes this a stylistic step above normal razors, a bit like a forged bolster on a knife! These were in their times very classy razors, certainly meant to be top-of-the-line compared to a normal straight razor. A great deal of hand work goes into polishing the gorge and also into fitting and riveting on the tiny "tail pieces."
Incidentally, all of the different COLLECTIBLE razors and the Damascus, were hardened, milled and polished, sharpened etc. by Mr. Fayet, our most skilled razor maker (and certainly the best razor maker in the world at this time.) He has been making razors for Thiers-Issard continously for over 45 years!
Now i have one more razor to drool over! :shrug:
Yep I got the same admonition. They're nice razors and shave very well but they're no different than some of the other top of the line razors around today. So I didn't see what the big secret was. The historic aspect is what gives them their value. Never again will another razor be hammered out by Pierre Thiers.
Regards,
EL
Not so sure about the hand hammered applying to the covered tang razors. TI mentions dies, and a bolster shape like that is surely a die forging not a hand formed shape. The leaf and vine, Egyptians, etc... are all examples of die forged designs.
Tony
Well, I went and got myself one of the tang-covered razors from TI. It sure is a beaute. The one I got has very blond scales and very dark horn coverings on the tang, which is a very nice contrast. I have no idea if the razor was really forged, or made, or ever touched at all by The Man himself, but hey I'm still expecting it to be a fantastic shave anhow. (But looking at it, the blade spine is not as symetrical as one would expect from a not-hand-made verson, so ... ??)
Tomorrow's shave is set now ... :w
Ah, the assymetry of it all... it just bugs me to see things like this.
But let's hope the shave is great! Keep us posted
Cheers
Ivo
I think the covered tang models are from the early 20th century and are not hand forged. Only the historical model is hand forged. Either way they are both fantastic shavers. I don't think the hand forging makes any difference. If your into history and collecting then it would be more important.
Well fellas, I've decided to sell my TI Historic. It's not seeing any action here in my hands and I think someone else would probably enjoy it. I'll post the ebay number here and at the yahoo site tomorrow night.
Regards,
EL
Why don't you give us first jab at it here on the buy, sell and trade forums?
JMS, once upon a time I did offer to the forums first and it can cause complications. Ever since I have felt that this is the best way to handle things as it gives everyone a fair shot.
Regards,
EL
Makes good sense! Thanks for answering my question.
Mark
Gentlemen,
As promised I have listed my Thiers Issard Historic Hammer Forged Razor. This is one heck of a shaver but for me it's not getting any use because I prefer bigger blades and its a piece of history and I don't want to ruin it by accident. Here's the listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190126231028
Right now all the vendors who sell these are out of them so if you're looking for one this may be a good opportunity for you. Only 450 of them were ever made so when they're gone, they're really gone. Starting bid of only $9.99, no reserve. It comes shave ready.
Regards,
EL
Cool, Thanks EL for the heads up.
The pictures make the blade look like is is scratched up near the tip and the etching, is this the case or is it just the photo?
Thanks
That's the finish of the razor and those lines or whatnot have been there since I recieved the razor. They are not scratches. To the naked eye you have to look very hard at it while it's in you hand to see what you're talking about. The only thing I can think of is that it's a product of the polishing stage of fashioning the razor.
Regards,
EL
Well, it's on my watch list...
Certainly interesting to see what the final cost will be. Can't decide yet if I will be doing any bidding or just watching :D
Cheers
Ivo
With thirty minutes left, the price was $100 more that the snipe I had set. Oh well.
I wanted to wait for El's razor to close before listing mine. I will be selling my Hand Forged as well as a quantity of Dubl Duck razors. Wonderedge, Goldenedge, Satinedge, Satinwedge, Dwarf, No.1 and a Grim Reaper.
PM for details on the TI
Tony
After this auction #350 is flying my way :D
Cheers
Ivo
Thanks to everyone that participated and especially to Jim for his gracious purchase. Jim, I hope you enjoy the razor she's on her way to you now.
This coming Sunday I am planning on selling My Thiers Issard forged bolster razor with the blond horn covered tang. It's another one we talked about here that Pierre himself worked on. No hammer marks but a very wonderful shaver and beautiful to boot. It's got that shining armor type look to the steel. Just looking at it though isn't doing me any good. It needs a good home with someone who is willing to use it. I'll post a link when I list it.
Here's a link to the item: http://www.classicshaving.com/catalo...551/977967.htm
Mine has the Eagle motif instead of the Wolf and Ram.
Regards,
EL
Congratulations, Jim.
I'm glad someone that can appreciate the razor won.
My funds are depleted as a result of a Plisson brush purchase, otherwise I might have been in the running.
I'll be watching Tony.
Gentlemen, I've list another Thiers Issard razor. This one is the historic "gorge" razor with the horn covered tang. You can view the listing here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190130323961
As always, no reserve. Hope you guys enjoy.
Regards,
EL
FYI Shaving & Razor Shop are now showing as having 8 of the Pierre Thiers handforged razors in stock, although they actually only have 7. ;)
Pricey but not many left of these for sale...
http://www.shaving-and-razor-shop.co...s-Issard-e.htm
Hopefully this one will be a keeper (unlike the one you sold to Joel)
Cheers
Ivo
For that kind of money, why not just buy a Custom razor?
Because getting a razor hammered by Pierre Theirs is something else - even if purely for the history. (Lucky me - I do have a custom from Robert, and a TIPTLE; this is chunk change for some members but I am very happy I have them)
Cheers
Ivo
what is a Tiptle if you dont mind me asking
Yeah they're a lot of money, but having owned one before I have to say it's worth it (IMO). I wish I'd never sold my first one to Joel now, it was one of the best shavers I've tried so far - and one of the nicest and most unique looking razors too (again, IMO).
Yes it's 'custom' money, but hopefully people like RW and ML will be around for a few more years and their razors will still be available, unlike Pierre's creations. :)
TIPTLE is the acronym for Thiers Issard Pierre Thiers Limited Edition
At any rate, regardless of how historically valuable they may be, I think they're ugly, ugly, ugly. There's probably a reason good ol' Pierre stashed them away under his bench.
There, I said it. Hmm, I wonder what that low rumble and crackling sound is....
:gth Bruce