I want to weigh in. I don't know what these will be like. I'm hoping for the best. I think, when my Zulu Grey gets here, I'll have an idea of their quality. Again, I'm hoping these are great and affordable.
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I want to weigh in. I don't know what these will be like. I'm hoping for the best. I think, when my Zulu Grey gets here, I'll have an idea of their quality. Again, I'm hoping these are great and affordable.
Hi, Mike!
Any news?
Yeah I hope they are great razors but the one thing that doesn't go together are the words great and affordable those two words are not happy bed fellows, I'll settle for great and fairly expensive over affordable and mediocre.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by jte87
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Originally Posted by Matheus
Hey Matheus, well - if you haven't already then I'd encourage you to sign up for our newsletter as that is the channel where we will divulge milestone announcements as things progress. (*subscribers will also have first option for pre-orders, with a solid pre-order discount, so, yeah).
For now though, there is a tidbit I can share: the first new Wade & Butcher razor model officially has a name!
I won't share it here right now, but it will be formally announced on our social media accounts very soon.
We won't be titling it as "The Celebrated _____" as that is quite presumptuous I'm sure all would agree. But it is a classic, befitting name for the upcoming W&B model.
Stay tuned :)
Cheers,
- Mike
I am, indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelC
I suggest "The Anticipated ______."
:)
Are you on Instagram?Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelC
They will not be making their razors in Sheffield, which IMHO is a red flag for me, but we will have to wait and see what happens..
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Originally Posted by HARRYWALLY
Yes for sure. ( /wadeandbutcher ) for the big 3.
Cheers,
- Mike
:gaah:Quote:
Originally Posted by alla2465
Why ?
I bet the first new model will be a 7 or 8/8, very slightly hollow, double stabilizer and a beautiful barber's notch.
I tried signing up on the website. No confirmation on it. Hopefully it worked.
Very cool , I think this will be a big hit.
It sounds like he is passionate about the brand and has vision.
I don't get the pessimists , EVERY aspect of razor/blade making is better today than it was 100 years ago. All the information is out there, I don't believe any mystical knowledge has been forever lost that would prevent anyone from making a great modern day W&B if they have the designs and dimensions. Could be made with better steel (gasp !!), more consistent heat treat and a more refined finished product.
Win win in my book. A great new product classically inspired manufactured using todays technology, that will be a sweet evolution of the brand. On the other hand the collector value of old W&B razors should go up, making their collecting and refinishing more lucrative, whats not to love.
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Originally Posted by Matheus
We have a name! Our first new straight razor model in over 70 years finally has an official name.
We present to you, Wade & Butcher's "Irontusk" Razor.
A blade inspired by the majestic forms of Africa, refined by the classic understated style of Old Sheffield. The marriage of our past with our present.
The image below offers a very small glimpse at an early prototype of the W&B Irontusk Razor (this is of course not the final blade). The image reveals - at the very least - that the razor will feature a prominent sweeping tusk-like tang.
Each Irontusk razor will also ship with a custom machined solid steel/aluminium presentation case :)
More details to come. (if interested please join our social media pages : /wadeandbutcher )
Cheers,
- Mike
http://i.imgur.com/wGLJBCu.jpg
Getting very excited now :D
Having 2 of Dad's vintage W&B's I would like to have a 'new' version to use daily and keep his 'as is.' I hope this comes to fruition, albeit not like most other 'comebacks' of vintage things...be it the 'new' muscle cars, etc.
My fingers are still crossed, nonetheless!!
Hi Guys,
I just wanted to post a small update for those following this - below is our working spec-sheet for the Irontusk Razor (our first new W&B razor launching next year).
It just makes sense to keep this thread updated with our process as I know many of you are interested to know what to expect..
This is a working spec list, so some of it may change before the razor is officially announced:
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Model Name: Irontusk
Blade Size: 8/8
Blade Style: gentle smile
Grind: ˝ hollow
Blade Steel: Damasteel® RWL34™ (stainless damascus as option)
Point Style: features our new signature 'Bézier-Notch'
Spine Finish: rounded/mirror
Tang/Tail: extended Tusk Style
Shank: spacious thumb notch (with fine jimping)
Shoulder Style: shoulderless
Blade Finish: deep mirror polish (flats, hollows and jewelled edges)
Scales and Wedge: light or dark colourway option (materials TBC)
Pins/Pivot System: TBC
Storage/Presentation: custom fitted 'Butcher-Block' case (with subtle magnetic closure)
Stationary: letterpressed and foiled certificate of origin and authenticity cards (numbered & hand signed by maker)
.....
Cheers guys,
- Mike
Shoulderless with a thumb-notch, my favorite stylings!
:tu
Nice sounds a bit otterman
Sounds very nice only hope there's going to be a way of buying this razor in the UK without the huge import duty bill, I look forward to the preview unveiling of the razor.
Oh man I am getting pumped for this. HURRY UP 2017!
I wouldn't be interested in 01 tool steel, assuming that's what they will use?
If however the do like T.I does, then I would be very interested.
Few posts back says it will be made with Damasteel RWL34Quote:
Originally Posted by JOB15
DAMASTEEL - CUTTING EDGE. AND LOOKS TOO.
A huge import duty on a modern W&B just seems wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by celticcrusader
Guess I should have read the thread..Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanQ
Damascus , I definitely will not be buying one then :shrug:
What a long and arduous read this thread has been!
I think some people are emotionally attached to the history and legacy of the brand. Since its not being manufactured in England, they see it as some sort of insult to the/their heritage. All those comparisons to cars... To them, (and some what to me as well) a Ford, should be made in america, by american workers. A Ford in Japan should still be made in America and shipped over. Many of of us have not come to terms (nor will we) with "global" economy.
Was it smart to use the W&B name? Sure as hell was! Would it have been easier for others to accept if it were made in England? probably.
Will I ever buy one? Probably a used one, on ebay, in about 20 years, when I spot it mixed in with a pile of other old junk that somebodies grand kids are tossing out.
So who do I need to talk to for merchandising rights?
Maybe a line of Butchers Brew here at the winery? :beer1:
The name begs a lot of interest, and I'll surely have an open mind - but ultimately, for me, it will just be a custom razor with a long dead name....:shrug:
I think that is a fair enough assessment of the situation. OTH a good custom razor along traditional lines is nothing to sneeze at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrank
Bob
:deadhorse:
Jus' a little bit, as sentiments one way or another have be expressed throughout this thread. Duty from SA is a good point and may limit some buyers in other continents/countries.
Not all Damasteel is Damascus. I for one would not even consider the use of the Damasteel Damascus for a razor, but the Damasteel RWL34 is NOT damascus, and should be a fine choice for a blade if properly heat treated.Quote:
Originally Posted by JOB15
Hi Guys,Quote:
Originally Posted by Magpie
RWL34 is indeed the primary steel we're using for all our razors - the patterned martensitic stainless damascus from Damasteel (called DS93X) is considerably more expensive and so will be used only as a far more premium option in our blades.
I really do not understand the strong aversion to a patterned steel for razors from two members here, perhaps it's just regarding your tastes in appearance? In which case, fair enough.. But as to performance as a razor steel, DS93X is actually a combination of two hardenable PM steels (RWL34 & PMC27) with 1.05 and 0.6 % Carbon respectively. These are then fused in over a hundred layers.
The resulting DS93X is an excellent blade steel, especially engineered for: High hardness; High polishability; High purity and cleanliness. Folks, it is a beautifully capable razor steel, make no mistake.
As for our base steel of RWL34: our heat treatment involves a steel plate quench and a cryogenic quench in liquid nitrogen (soaked overnight). Then a double 2-hour temper for a hardness of between 61-63 HRC.
Gentlemen, RWL34 is without question a superb razor steel :)
Cheers,
- Mike
I don't understand the need to make steel very very hard that will take ages to hone, we only shaving our faces, we not using them to hunt, killing zebras with them. Ffs
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Mastro livi has also used rwl34 and he doesn't get too many complaints...
excellent point my friend, and he has been making some of the finest razors available TcQuote:
Originally Posted by markbignosekelly
I have my reasons for disliking Damascus blades :)
I wouldn't want to effect a vendors sales or share my negativity and reservations with everyone.
Hopefully they are worthy of the name..
I'm still excited to see them..
W&B rule :)
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Originally Posted by GabrielMartin
No Gabriel, 60-63(max) HRC is I believe widely regarded as an acceptable hardness range for razor steel, especially modern sophisticated steels. Remember the final hardness is only one part of the story with regards to edge holding and potential difficulty in honing. Abrasion resistance of the steel and carbide size and distribution also play a lot in how a razor feels on the stones, and how it holds it's edge.
So no, we are not randomly making the steel 'very very hard' as you say, rather we're making it sufficiently hard for the type of steel used and for the blade's given purpose.
- Mike
Mike, my apologies, i stand correctedQuote:
Originally Posted by MichaelC
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Originally Posted by GabrielMartin
Hey no worries man, just sharing my thoughts for the benefit of others reading and wondering..
Cheers,
- Mike
@Denvernoob I fixed that for you :D
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@MichaelC
I'm really looking forwards to seeing these :D
From the little I have been reading, RWL34 would possibly give you a more uniform grain structure because of the manufacturing process and so be a little more resistant to chipping?
Bob
