Wade & Butcher is planning to restart production in 2017. Here is the link: https://wadeandbutcher.com
Hope they are as good as the originals but I don't think they will.
What are your thoughts on this?
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Wade & Butcher is planning to restart production in 2017. Here is the link: https://wadeandbutcher.com
Hope they are as good as the originals but I don't think they will.
What are your thoughts on this?
Very interesting I wonder who's behind this relaunch of this iconic brand and can they do it justice we wait with bated breath.
Wondering the same thing. We have seen a few old Solingen brands resurrected with not so great results. There will be no pool of skilled W&B razor makers for them to draw for the restart. Fingers crossed that they get it right from the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by celticcrusader
Bob
Signed up for the newsletter - I'll believe it when I see it and when I get one in hand.
Personally, if this gets off the ground, I'll be suprised if it doesn't end in disaster. If the quality isn't spectacularly high, thus a very premium price, they will fail the brand. High price point then limits customer base - I wish them luck - would be a fantastic brand to see properly resurrected.
This will be very interesting. I really want to see what they come up with.
Producing a fine custom razor that looks like a Wade & Butcher is certainly possible. But if they stray into production razors ?? Can you imagine the nightmare of flooding the market with a inferior blade with the appearance of a FBU . Hopefully any modern blades will be readily distinguishable from the originals.
They got you !! :roflmao That ad was a phishing attempt by the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) to locate you Phrank, they done pinged your line,,, expect a knock on the door in 15 minutes !! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrank
Doubtful that a production razor would have horn scales and the box would be modern so those probably would be one way to tell.
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Originally Posted by Wirm
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!
Good thing I am full of old ones.
Hopefully this is worth watching and not a big let down...
Let's hope they resurrect the Wade & Butcher name and do it the justice that it deserves.
We'll see!
Pete <:-}
Could be interesting. Added my name to the list of mildly curious..
Makes me scratch my head and think where are all these skilled grinders and Honemisters going to come from, it's not like you can pick up where they left off many decades before it just doesn't add up in my head.
I heard that production will be from the Gold Dollar factory and Master Shifu will personally hone evey razor :p
once again you force me to post up this pic....Quote:
Originally Posted by markbignosekelly
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I too am interested but skeptical...but if they do it right it would be great!
I prefer new production razors over vintage so depending on what's being offered this could be really nice.
If they're using good steel and have good quality control I'd guess things will go well.
While I have no faith it will be as good as the original, imagine how cool it would be if they actually did do as well.
Agreed - no way they can capture the essence of the way that steel was forged and ground, the character that makes an old Sheffield what it is can't be recaptured - will probably just be some stock steel shaped like a vintage razor...but I am very interested to see what they come up with and will keep an open mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redcane
I predict a 'modern design' 5/8 to 6/8 made by who knows who. Maybe a 7/8 down the road.
Ain't gonna be anything like the good old stuff. I just don't see how it could be done with obstacles aforementioned. May be wrong. Kindof hope I am!
Anyway, with all the good pile coming out of Japan....I cannot see it. JMO
Will It be a WBINO ? Remains to be seen. Case knives sold the factory in the early '70s and they were a stodgy old bunch. Collectors were paying extravagant sums for old patterns (vintage) that hadn't been produced in decades. The new owners ran it into the ground and the workers bought it, kind of like Harley Davidson.
They recognized the demand for the old patterns, again like HD did for the custom motorcycles, and began producing them alongside of the regular stuff and brought the company back to popularity and prosperity. Pretty sure Zippo owns CaseXX now, or they own Zippo. Depends on the mindset of the people who are doing the planning. The fact they want to use the name might indicate a sense of what would most appeal to the lovers of the old blades.
Took me a second - WBINOQuote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Wade and Butcher in Name Only - I think you got it right with that and tied a bow on it - that's all it really can be....
edited to add:.....and they will suck, there, I said it! ";"
I for one am not interested. They are bring back a popular name and that is all. We make the steel differently than we did 200 years ago. Labour was cheap and craftsmen aplenty. The name and logo are going to be the only real similarities.
It's kind of the same as what is going on with Le Grelot at the time. Maybe, like the "new" Le Grelot they have, besides new production, a stock of old blanks which can be interesting. If not, there's only the famous name, and a product not very different from the new Dovo's and TI's I guess.
I'm hoping for a few things.
1. No "made in china" it's a British company I would like it to stay that way
2. They keep at least some of the designs that made them famous.
3. High quality control and materials.
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I think that would basically be most users hopes. Being a pessimist, I'm not counting on it but would be happy to be proved wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaron1234
Bob
A couple of thoughts on this:
- the notice seems to be generated in the UK - that's my assumption based on the words used and structure of sentences.
- if that's the case, does it suggest that the razors will be made in Sheffield? The only bulk manufacturers are in Germany and France so somehow they have to get set up with equipment and craftsmen for that to happen.
- unless of course there's no intention of manufacturing in large quantities and it's a couple of people working together having acquired the brand name somehow.
- I can think of only one person in the UK with the ability to even consider this as a venture - if it's him, the quality will be there.
- maybe we can all satisfy the desire for the Ottoman-Egyptian in future.:cool:
Just to muddy the water a bit. This fellow claims to own the cross and arrow trademark and that the new parent W&B company owned by Kentucky based Big Dog Cutlery only owns the Wade and Butcher name.:shrug: The Holy Black Trading Company | The Holy Black Trading Co and https://www.reddit.com/r/wicked_edge...ning_wade_and/
I agree with Jimmy.
Pretty much all the old names/trademarks have been bought and are being used to sell a product that has no real resemblance to the original other than the name.
There is a consortium in Sheffield that grouped several of the old house names together and produces a limited number of knives. Quality is good, production is low, and prices are high.
Other names are being produced in China, The KISSING CRANE brand of Rob't Klass, Solingen is now a Chinese item. Knives are good, but they are not the knives that were built in Germany. Remington, Winchester, Camillus, and few others are Chinese now.
Case makes knives to look at and "collect". They issue 47 different sets of scales on the same frame so the "collectors" can have a full set. :/ As far as I'm concerned, Case quit making knives in 1969.
Just have to wait and see, but I'm not excited. :)
No idea where the new W&B is headed. I think Tom's idea is pretty much on the mark as well.
Hmm. I'm not sure that this site is legitimate. It's hard to tell but a whois lookup on the domain name wadeandbutcher.com yields some odd results. The domain is registered in Panama. They registrant uses whoisguard - which hides names of actual registrants. Some companies do this to keep spam down but it's not that common on legitimate sites. This could just be a scam to collect your email address by asking you to sign up for their newsletter.
Partial results from a whois query (the whoisguard name and org means they are protecting the actual name of the organization and the registrants name):
Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Mailing Address: P.O. BOX 0823-03411, PANAMA PANAMA 00000 PA
Phone: +507.8365503
There is a phone number on the record, which I called, and it is not in service.
Seems odd.
Adam
My first thought was that it's 419...
My thoughts as well - I wouldn't be surprised if anyone who signed up for the newsletter got a legit looking request for funding to help them get started.Quote:
Originally Posted by bekk
Adam
What's 419?
Scammer....think back to the days of our Nigerian Prince who wanted you to send him $1,000 dollars so he could free up his inheritance or investment portfolio and give you $500 k for your troubles...total scam...IIRC 419 refers some some type of Penal Code...Quote:
Originally Posted by Leatherstockiings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam
I think this is what they mean. I signed up for it and they only sent an email to confirm so far. It is my email for possible spam/scam things, so we shall see.
EDIT: For those that don't want to read it/the link breaks. Phrank is right, it's the penal code in Nigeria for the scams he mentioned.
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Sorry didn't see that dinnermint replied already
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And... the phone number is a Land Line in Slayton, MN, and it's disconnected....
Adam
