Thread: Wade & Butcher Comeback

I'm hoping for a few things.
1. No "made in china" it's a British company I would like it to stay that way
2. They keep at least some of the designs that made them famous.
3. High quality control and materials.

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Originally Posted by aaron1234

I'm hoping for a few things.
1. No "made in china" it's a British company I would like it to stay that way
2. They keep at least some of the designs that made them famous.
3. High quality control and materials.

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I think that would basically be most users hopes. Being a pessimist, I'm not counting on it but would be happy to be proved wrong.

Bob

Just to muddy the water a bit. This fellow claims to own the cross and arrow trademark and that the new parent W&B company owned by Kentucky based Big Dog Cutlery only owns the Wade and Butcher name. The Holy Black Trading Company | The Holy Black Trading Co and https://www.reddit.com/r/wicked_edge...ning_wade_and/

Hmm. I'm not sure that this site is legitimate. It's hard to tell but a whois lookup on the domain name wadeandbutcher.com yields some odd results. The domain is registered in Panama. They registrant uses whoisguard - which hides names of actual registrants. Some companies do this to keep spam down but it's not that common on legitimate sites. This could just be a scam to collect your email address by asking you to sign up for their newsletter.

Partial results from a whois query (the whoisguard name and org means they are protecting the actual name of the organization and the registrants name):

Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Mailing Address: P.O. BOX 0823-03411, PANAMA PANAMA 00000 PA
Phone: +507.8365503

There is a phone number on the record, which I called, and it is not in service.

Seems odd.

Adam

Originally Posted by aalbina

Hmm. I'm not sure that this site is legitimate. It's hard to tell but a whois lookup on the domain name wadeandbutcher.com yields some odd results. The domain is registered in Panama. They registrant uses whoisguard - which hides names of actual registrants. Some companies do this to keep spam down but it's not that common on legitimate sites. This could just be a scam to collect your email address by asking you to sign up for their newsletter.

Partial results from a whois query (the whoisguard name and org means they are protecting the actual name of the organization and the registrants name):

Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Mailing Address: P.O. BOX 0823-03411, PANAMA PANAMA 00000 PA
Phone: +507.8365503

There is a phone number on the record, which I called, and it is not in service.

Seems odd.

Adam

As you said, the service they're using masks their information, including name, email, address, and phone number. You can't base any information off their domain registration. Domain privacy is pretty standard for normal use. I have it on my personal site, SRP uses it, and millions of other legitimate sites do the same.

It might be someone looking to cash in on an established name but I doubt it's for malicious email scamming. Pretty elaborate steps taken already to target a niche market.

Originally Posted by commiecat

As you said, the service they're using masks their information, including name, email, address, and phone number. You can't base any information off their domain registration. Domain privacy is pretty standard for normal use. I have it on my personal site, SRP uses it, and millions of other legitimate sites do the same.

It might be someone looking to cash in on an established name but I doubt it's for malicious email scamming. Pretty elaborate steps taken already to target a niche market.

I'm familiar with the practice. For any established company, it is generally not done. Small companies and private entities often entertain such a practice. Certainly not a red flag on it's own. A simple phony DMCA complaint to the provider will likely yield the hidden information. I've had to do that to uncover domain technical contacts and GoDaddy will send you the info pretty quick. Other privacy companies sometimes require an actual subpoena. I assure you, there is no way to truly hide this type of information on the Internet. Domain history can be traced back to the first registration. There is no such thing as privacy on the Internet.

A registration address out of Panama (the WHOISGUARD Address) for a company historically based in the UK is odd. There is already an entry in NOMINET, the official UK registry:

Domain name:
wadeandbutcher.uk
Registrant:
Alan Ezekiel
Registrant type:
Unknown
Registrant's address:
277 Boston Road
Hanwell
London
W7 2AT
United Kingdom

A phone number for the registrant for the .com address that is listed as land line in Slayton, Minnesota is odd. Which prompted my closing statement - this seems odd.

Given what I have seen in this industry - the minimal amount of effort required to set this up for an niche target audience who spends hundreds of dollars on straight razors... I have to respectfully disagree that it is pretty elaborate. I could have accomplished everything this site accomplished with about 15 minutes of effort and a maximum of $75.00.

It seems odd. We'll have to wait and see I suppose.

Adam