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    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceGuy View Post
    Maybe you can find something useful in the section on De Scheermessemaker? Link here, pg. 235: https://books.google.com/books?id=Zc...emaker&f=false
    That is a very tedious story about razor makers and calliper makers. It does not tell you how they made razors at the time.
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    Here are some more. First one, from a series Bücher und Schriften, of a man holding a "Schermesser" (a shaving razor), from versions from 1591 and 1603. The accompanying text is unambiguous in stating that this is a razor for removing hair:

    Name:  Bucher und Schrifften Dieser Theil Johannes Huser 1591 close.jpg
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    Next, from a 1620 plaque from the Rochusfriedhof (cemetery) in Nürnberg, Germany:

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    One from one similar from the same place, from 1684:

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    And finally, a surviving piece from the Germanisches National Museum, dated 1572:

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    Seems to be what contemporary Chinese are emulating.
    Enlightening and entertaining, Michael!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScienceGuy View Post

    And finally, a surviving piece from the Germanisches National Museum, dated 1572:

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    Proof that tails are not a modern thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 32t View Post
    Proof that tails are not a modern thing.
    Neither are curved scales!

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    I think it is interesting how far the pivot pin is set into the scales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32t View Post
    Proof that tails are not a modern thing.
    Take a closer look at the tail. Its been brazed onto the razor. might have been done at any time, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpie View Post
    Take a closer look at the tail. Its been brazed onto the razor. might have been done at any time, no?
    There are enough examples that I think it was just a stylistic thing that occurred sometimes.

    12-15th century, Museum of London:

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    Late 1600s:

    Name:  1695 razor Stadtgeschichte.jpg
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    Razors from the mid-1600s from the Kunstschränke (art cabinets):

    Name:  Museum Gustavianum Uppsala Sweden 1632 Kunstschrank.jpg
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    1545 (though the last one was more toward general cutting than specifically shaving):

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    Woodall, 1619 (razor is #3):

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32t View Post
    I think it is interesting how far the pivot pin is set into the scales.
    This is a common feature on a lot of the depictions of the older ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpie View Post
    Take a closer look at the tail. Its been brazed onto the razor. might have been done at any time, no?
    Good observation but as ScienceGuy just posted is it brass dipped or???

    If I knew I would give an answer.

    Has anyone seen these in person?

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