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    That's an excellent idea. A 7 day blade only set.

    Do you think a knifesmith would be able to make a flat blade such as the one used here?

    What would be a good steel to use?
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    I'm not sure of the steel. Anything that's good for a razor. Sure there's plenty of threads here or knowledgeable people to answer that question. Bû certainly. Anyone who does any steel work what so ever could. You could even do it easily with a few files, grinder, and belt sander. Just need to start with the proper thickness, cut out the design, heat treat it, and throw an edge on it. Toughest part would be the heat treating. But could just stick it in some coals/embers until it's nice and evenly red. Than dip it in some oil, than bake it.

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    I don't really believe it is that simple Wightman. Bladesmith's are tradesmen, and are taught the proper way to make a razor blade. That's why there are so few custom makers that make quality blades. It's an art and a science. Not just something "anyone who does any steel work what so ever could"

    I'm a farmer, and I do fabricate parts when needed, and weld pretty dang good. But I wouldn't go trying to make a straight razor blade........but that's just me
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    Or, one could simply buy a beautiful vintage 7 Day Frameback set, by Jacques Lecoultre like this one....I have a 3 day version:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dieseld View Post
    I don't really believe it is that simple Wightman. Bladesmith's are tradesmen, and are taught the proper way to make a razor blade. That's why there are so few custom makers that make quality blades. It's an art and a science. Not just something "anyone who does any steel work what so ever could"

    I'm a farmer, and I do fabricate parts when needed, and weld pretty dang good. But I wouldn't go trying to make a straight razor blade........but that's just me
    Don't see why you guys think it's so impossible for a normal guy
    I have to respectfully disagree. There are thousands of everyday Joes now that make custom knives and razors. Definitely different qualities and levels of expertise to them. But if you have the right tools, know how, and drive to do it... you can do anything. And this is just a flat blade. What would be so difficult of making it from using the stock removal technique? Forging it might be a little difficult getting them to the right thickness etc, and a ton of sandiñg and what not. I agree on normal straights, making a hollow blade would be difficult without the double grinding wheels. But I don't know why you guys think it's so impossible for a normal guy to try his hand at making them. Would every knifesmith not have had to started that way? And for sure you will have alot of mistakes, and mess ups and start overs and work with and around messups as you go. But I don't see why anyone who has the passion, know how and tools, can't have a go at it.
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    There are thousands of everyday Joes now that make custom knives and razors. Definitely different qualities and levels of expertise to them.
    Yes some knives, but very few razors. And seriously, are they useful and give the proper shave? Isn't the quality and usefulness of the product what matters?

    Would every knifesmith not have had to started that way?
    Nope, most apprentice under a master to learn. I mean why waste thousands of dollars and make the learning curve decades instead of years?

    I haven't held one of these blades, but I'm pretty sure there is an edge, or thickness to the top to hold it in. If I'm mistaken, then I'm sure someone will correct me
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    I agree with you tho... it wouldn't be so simple as I make it seem.lol and all good things do take time and practice. but no, they slide in. Hold in, notched at the back. And the screw in þe front holds it in place on the front notch. And not every one making blades has apprenticed. And that's the wonderful thing about the days we are in of technology.... years and years of knowledge and techniques etc, crammed into a few learning sessions. Than comes the hands on practice. As long as you can wrap your mind around HOW it is done, and how you will do it. You can do it.
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    Making the shape isn't too hard. Heat treating will be a pain. Heat treating anything thin is a pain...
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    And if it's costing you thousands of dollars, and decades. You should give up the practice. Sure you will get better in time. But if you are just failing for 'decades' and 'wasting' thousands, You suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by criswilson10 View Post
    Making the shape isn't too hard. Heat treating will be a pain. Heat treating anything thin is a pain...
    That's what I'm saying man. To copy this template will not be hard. The heat treatiñ yea, cause you have to have a forge of some sort if you're doing it 'conventionally proper'. But no, to make these blades wouldn't be that difficult. If you can cut away steel into a simple design you want. You can make these.

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