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09-21-2018, 01:59 PM #11
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Thanked: 4825It's not what you know, it's who you take fishing!
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09-21-2018, 03:07 PM #12
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Thanked: 13240You have to look at what the razor looked like when made not after being honed to death
They are most often called a "Sabre Grind" they are fairly uncommon, and that is just another variation of it, the more common look is in post #9
I am looking for a pic now, I actually restored one years back with two grooves
A Double Concave, and a Bellied hollow, are quite different from both the pic in post #1 and MrHouston's pic in post #9Last edited by gssixgun; 09-21-2018 at 03:12 PM.
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09-21-2018, 03:37 PM #13
Thanks Glen, I was trying to remember that one, the sabre grind.
If you can post some pics.. Even after seeing the multiple pics on other threads of double concave, double swaged, and perhaps some other names, I'm still a bit confused on terminology.
The blade beginning this thread obviously shows hone wear. I was under the impression that this was a double concave and that when the single grind of a wedge blade, closer to the spine is a sabre grind being that it resemble the "blood-let" of a sabre...
Is there an agreed upon set of names for these various grinds? And if so can we see some pics of such?“You must unlearn what you have learned.”
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09-21-2018, 04:18 PM #14
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Thanked: 602Reminds me of a couple of blades I've got... sitting around... waiting for "new shoes" and honing.
The first, a massive Gilchrist
The second, a "diminutive" Friedmann & Lauterjung
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I'd give it all up, for just a little more.
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09-21-2018, 04:20 PM #15
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There is the problem, right there in one line, it is NOT agreed upon, hell we still have people call it a Barber's Notch and that has NEVER been found anywhere in the old advertisements
Hollow point or Hollow Notch is all we have ever seen, and better yet is that people will tell a multitude of stories about what it is for that are all un-proved
Rattler razor or grind is another mystery as it is stamped on so many types of razors we have no idea which is correct
We do know what a Double Concave is from the Patent
We also know what the basic grinds are from the Razor Companies so a Bellied Hollow is pretty well known too
But so much of this is lost to history and we just try and reconstruct it as best we can"No amount of money spent on a Stone can ever replace the value of the time it takes learning to use it properly"
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09-21-2018, 08:07 PM #16
Everything Glen said is true.
It was an established variety of semi-fancy blade grind going back to at least the first decade of the 1800's. I have seen pictures of late 1700's razors that have the added hollowing along the spine, but that's slightly different.
As long as you use tape, it shouldn't be any different to hone than any old Sheffield razor is from any other old Sheffield razor -- which is to say fairly different.
Here's some more examples, including another one of the model of Gilchrist JBHoren posted upthread (this is what the original scales looked like!)
And here are two rattler grind razors without the extra hollowing, one by Horrabin, the other Jonathan Crookes.
And from the 1812-15 Smith's Key, this very oddball version on the top:
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09-21-2018, 09:09 PM #17
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09-21-2018, 09:22 PM #18-Zak Jarvis. Writer. Artist. Bon vivant.
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09-21-2018, 09:29 PM #19
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09-22-2018, 12:14 AM #20
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Thanked: 60They just look like swages which were popular in cutlery at that time. Most grinds were wedges and a swage allowed lighter weight with no loss in tensile strength. You would see them in swords and knives of the same time period