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    Default Bengall & IVY Super

    2 more to disassemble
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    I don't think the boxes belong to the razors. The Bengall is pretty worn.
    The IVY looks to be in good shape aside from some rust around the pivot. time to see if I not break the scales

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    The Ivy looks nice. Just go easy and try not to pry on them to seporate. That is usually the biggest mistake made when removing scales.
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    I do like my pin vise for drilling pins in old scales. There are a lot of threads but only one way to get experience.
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    I know by now you have read a lot on removing pins, but here is my way.

    1. Put 2 layers of blue tape covering the pin and the scale end to protect it.
    2. Use a Needle file and flatten the top of the pin by filing thru the tape.
    3. Use a micro Sharpie to put a dot right in the center of the pin to make it easier to see.
    4. Use one of these... But much smaller in my drill press. I chucked up this big one just to show you better what it looks like.
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    I've put a long wide slot in a board that the scales lay in to help hold it steady while drilling. Drill slowly until the bit grabs the collar and takes it off. At that point, the scales should just about fall apart.

    The bit I use has a tip that is 1/16". The same size as the pin. If your off-center a little a thin piece of the pin will still be sticking up, but it will be so thin it will flex out of the way.

    Good luck! And Practice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gasman View Post
    I know by now you have read a lot on removing pins, but here is my way.

    1. Put 2 layers of blue tape covering the pin and the scale end to protect it.
    2. Use a Needle file and flatten the top of the pin by filing thru the tape.
    3. Use a micro Sharpie to put a dot right in the center of the pin to make it easier to see.
    4. Use one of these... But much smaller in my drill press. I chucked up this big one just to show you better what it looks like.
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    I've put a long wide slot in a board that the scales lay in to help hold it steady while drilling. Drill slowly until the bit grabs the collar and takes it off. At that point, the scales should just about fall apart.

    The bit I use has a tip that is 1/16". The same size as the pin. If your off-center a little a thin piece of the pin will still be sticking up, but it will be so thin it will flex out of the way.

    Good luck! And Practice!
    Is that an "easy out"? Supposed to grab and back out bad screws?
    If you're wondering I'm probably being sarcastic.

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    No. Itz a centering drillbit. Drills a tiny hole then follows that up with a larger hole. Helps in getting center.
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    Hello. I bought the sane Ivy, but I can't find any i formation about the history and year when it was produced. Maybe you can share something with me?))

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorukr View Post
    Hello. I bought the sane Ivy, but I can't find any i formation about the history and year when it was produced. Maybe you can share something with me?))
    I will gladly but as of right now I have not done any research on it. Someone else may chime in on the subject.
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    You can buy Center Drill/Counter sink drills in 1/8th in shaft with a 1/16th cutter. They are stronger and will not flex like a 1/16th in drill bit and cut a single flute evenly and cleanly. They are inexpensive a set of 3 or 4 under $10 and last forever. It is how you are supposed to start a hole drill metal.

    If you center punch the flattened pin with a sharp awl, you can drill down the middle of the pin. You just need to remove the crown of the pin.
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