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    So... does this mean that the Hess 44 is the only frozen tempered razor? That would seem very odd. I know that Hess had their razors made in Germany. Why would a manufacturer only offer that service to one customer?

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    Randolph Tuttle, a SRP Mentor for residents of Minnesota & western Wisconsin

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    Randy, I don't know. But I've seen Hess razors which were not Ice Tempered.
    Oh, and btw...the Hess 42 Ice Tempered is FAR superior to the 44.

    Especially if I ever decide to let it go...


    John P.

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    buying something "unopened" after all this time, off of pictures of something like it, from a guy no one actually knows, with no recourse if the item is simply a pile of rust and plastic after spending $560 (it is 'as is' and unopened, how did he know?) ........... i don't think so! maybe it's just me but i want to at least see what i'm buying because if this thing was even opened and unwrapped once and not properly stored.......some one is out a lot of $ for what could be junk. it would be worth it being unwrapped for a few pics, seeing as i would use it anyway, before i spend that kind of $.


    then again, maybe i'm just not that trusting. but i'm not willing to (i've been dying to use that little guy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wielder View Post
    Oh, I understood. I'm also very aware that a documented history for an antique is usually beneficial, especially if there's ever a need to question its authenticity. But with a razor like this, we know where it came from, and as I said, its value is more to do with hype and talk. I like Dubl Ducks myself, but to an Antiques Roadshow person, they probably wouldn't see the final days of the Dubl Duck compay to be any more significant than the last time any ol' forgotten razor company stamped their last blade.

    I'm betting the Antique Roadshow person, probably won't know much without a ton of research about straight razors unless it was one of the collectors like John West or one of us who has watched the market for the last 10 years or so. Value is in the eye of the beholder without any question and prices have been going up every year as our population has been significantly increasing.

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    Good evening gentlemen,
    I've been a member of this forum for over two years now and I do appologise for not introducing myself earlier.
    I live in Jerusalem Israel , I am 54 years old and have been using straight razors since my early thirties.
    Because this particular WE has been the cause of so much controversy and speculation I felt it would be rude of me as the buyer and SRP member to ignor the issue totally.
    The seller happens to be a respectanle owner/CEO of a reputable advertising company in California and he did post this sale on behalf of his uncle. I have no reason to doubt his story about his family's involvement with DD and frankly it does not concern me.
    What does concern me is that he was truthful in his description that this razor has never been used or opened . This is why he didn't realize that the razor he was selling was a spike & not a round point like the one pictured on Ebay.
    I have seen dozens of famous brand razors offered as mint or NOS only to discover later that the description is inaccurate. This was the first WE I have come accross that was sure to be 100% mint.
    As for the price , high or low is relative value , like everything else in life. Like most of you I buy only razors that I intend to use and enjoy and do not look beyond that . I never consider buying a razor as an investment nor do I equate the quality of the shave to the value of the razor. My $30 Heljestrand will probably outperform any Duck.
    We all feel a certain passion for this hobby and occasionally demonstrate what may appear as eccentric to others. Hell, my wife of twenty six years till this day wonders how I persist on wasting at least twenty minutes every morning on something that requires no more than two or three minutes.
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    I don't think anyone here was upset about whatever the razor turned out to be. For my part I e-mailed him and asked some questions about the razor and he never responded. As far as mint wonderedges go I have one that I got about 2-3 years ago and it came in a sealed box and as I recall I paid around $300 for it. I think the questions or comments people had concerned how he could say with authority there are no sealed in box WE's in existance.
    No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero

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    Quote Originally Posted by kq53 View Post
    Good evening gentlemen,
    I've been a member of this forum for over two years now and I do appologise for not introducing myself earlier.
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    Somehow, this just makes my day. In the best possible sense.
    You must hold the longest "junior member-ship" in the entire history of SRP. The lustrous Lao Tse once wrote "Those who know do not speak, those who speak, do not know". As an incurable chatterer myself, I cannot else but to admire such stoicism (If I may call it that way).
    And then you bought the holy grail of the entire SRP-community: the "very last' -excuse me the slight exaggeration- mint and still sealed Dubl' Duck WonderEdge. Most of us were already trying to reconcile ourselves with the thought that it probably was a scam and the buyer ended up with a sealed box of junk next to the unopened bottles of Chateau Mouton Rothschild 1973.

    I am sure that DD found a good home.
    Now, please excuse me sir, I must rush off and go buy a Heljestrand on Ebay, before they quadruple in price...

    All the best,

    Bart.



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    I didn't want to open again this can of worms, but somebody else brought this up, so I guess I can make use of duck-n-cover....

    Here you go:




    I will gladly accept your generous donations of Goldeges, Satinedges, Satinwedges, Dwarfs, Specials, Liferimes, Vesuvii, etc... and will provide you with a free copy of the final report on the finings.
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    unconditionally guaranteed forever....

    I wonder if the cutler imagined we would be fighting over their products 100 years later.

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    I know that in the case of these unqualified, unconditional guarantees, the FTC warned fountain pen manufacturers off of them as far back as the late 1930s. Waterman offered a "100 Year Pen" that after the FTC objected, they renamed to the "Emblem Pen." Sheaffer changed the wording on the guarantee of their "white dot" pens for the same reason. I think the reasoning was that the promise in such guarantees was far beyond any company's ability to support them.

    Nonetheless, well into the 1970s, Sheaffer would still repair white dot pens from the 1930s and 40s, provided the indiidual would represent themselves as the original owner. After their parts stock was depleted (and their most skilled pen makers retired), they would replace such pens with a modern "equal." The thought was good, but the modern pens were not an equal at all, sadly.

    Dan

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