Thread: Wade & Butcher Hallmarks

I have another question. There is something I don't understand:
Most of you know the page Straight Razor Manufacturers and Dates of Operation

It says:
WADE & BUTCHER
Successor to Robert Wade; succeeded by Butcher, Brown & Butcher
Sheffield
1818-1890 ("Old Sheffield Razors" by Lummus. Antiques, December 1922 p.261-267)

and

WILLIAM & SAMUEL BUTCHER
WADE & BUTCHER
Eyre Lane, Sheffield.
circa 1845 to at least 1919
1830 - ? ("More Old Razors" by Lummus. Antiques, May 1927 p.372-374)

So, did W&B produce razors till 1890 or till 1919?

Originally Posted by Antares

I have another question. There is something I don't understand:
Most of you know the page Straight Razor Manufacturers and Dates of Operation

It says:
WADE & BUTCHER
Successor to Robert Wade; succeeded by Butcher, Brown & Butcher
Sheffield
1818-1890 ("Old Sheffield Razors" by Lummus. Antiques, December 1922 p.261-267)

and

WILLIAM & SAMUEL BUTCHER
WADE & BUTCHER
Eyre Lane, Sheffield.
circa 1845 to at least 1919
1830 - ? ("More Old Razors" by Lummus. Antiques, May 1927 p.372-374)

So, did W&B produce razors till 1890 or till 1919?

I would say it had to be at least 1919 if not beyond that. The photo of the DE in the post above would indicate that. The razor resembles a Gillette and they weren't in production until 1903. I have seen a W&B pocket knife on the bay that was of a style that looked like it would have been made in the '20s or '30s.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I would say it had to be at least 1919 if not beyond that. The photo of the DE in the post above would indicate that. The razor resembles a Gillette and they weren't in production until 1903. I have seen a W&B pocket knife on the bay that was of a style that looked like it would have been made in the '20s or '30s.

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. I saw an old ad on ebay today that was also post 1900. Guess I have to read that Lummus article sometime.

Where do the encircled 'B' and the iron cross come from?

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I own a Wade & Butcher Bowie Knife with the encircled b + arrow + maltess cross.....

I found this interesting because i thought Wade & Butcher only made Razors

A picture of this knife can be found on:

Knife; Bowie, Wade & Butcher, Sheffield, Antler Grip, Clipped End Blade, Sheath. [p4a.com, ltd.]

Originally Posted by florence

I own a Wade & Butcher Bowie Knife with the encircled b + arrow + maltess cross.....

I found this interesting because i thought Wade & Butcher only made Razors

No, they made pocket knives too and safety razors later on. I don't know exactly when they went out of business. Your knife looks like an 1850s vintage to me but I am no expert.

Originally Posted by littlesilverbladefromwale

IIRC the word England was added in the 1890's because it was required for imported items in either Canada or the US.
I think this applied to all makers though.
I wonder what Welsh cutlers put on their wares?

Did someone say Welsh

Originally Posted by Jason01

Did someone say Welsh

Nice ! Here is a set of four. Circa ? A.W. Stamiforth Cutler, Cardiff . Good shavers all.

Originally Posted by blueprinciple

.........the company's founder Robert Wade.....

Robert Wade was not the company's founder, he was the head of W. & S. Butcher's New York office.

Originally Posted by Antares

I have another question. There is something I don't understand:
Most of you know the page Straight Razor Manufacturers and Dates of Operation

It says:
WADE & BUTCHER
Successor to Robert Wade; succeeded by Butcher, Brown & Butcher
Sheffield
1818-1890 ("Old Sheffield Razors" by Lummus. Antiques, December 1922 p.261-267)

and

WILLIAM & SAMUEL BUTCHER
WADE & BUTCHER
Eyre Lane, Sheffield.
circa 1845 to at least 1919
1830 - ? ("More Old Razors" by Lummus. Antiques, May 1927 p.372-374)

So, did W&B produce razors till 1890 or till 1919?

W. & S. Butcher continued in cutlery production until 1959. When their razor production ended I do not know, but I am sure it would have been rather later than 1919 - there was still a significant (but reducing) demand for open razors.