Thread: venus titanium

I've been surfing the net and found a razor that's coated in titanium at venusworldwide.com. Has anybody used one of these before? Is the titanium coating as durable as they say it is?

looked into diamond coats, nitride coats, titanium razors etc.. Honing is the issue. the blades will eventually blunt, and when they do, honing will be difficult. It is forseeable that you could manufacture a diamond of the right size/shape as a straight razor and I doubt you'd need to ever sharpen that, but cost? not sure, plus it wouldn't have any flex.

How's the steel in these razors? I'm pretty sure the titanium is just a coating for the overall price of the razor. Does anybody know who makes the steel/where it comes from?

Originally Posted by keljian

l It is forseeable that you could manufacture a diamond of the right size/shape as a straight razor and I doubt you'd need to ever sharpen that, but cost? not sure, plus it wouldn't have any flex.

I fear the edge of such a razor might chip very easily. Diamond is very hard, but also very brittle. A big issue with an extremely fine razor edge.

what would it chip on? hairs?

If its titanium nitride, all it is , is a ceramic coating. Short of being familiar with industrial tooling,most people see it on drill bits. Its REALLY hard-something like 85 Rockwell. Which would be a true B&^%H to hone.

Then since it would be practically impossible to make the coating PERFECTLY uniform, you would wear through some and still have coating on what's left of the edge-then the hone would wear the edge unevenly.

It really does'nt work on drill bits-other than for non-professional use.The coating wears off,almost immediately . Most very high end drills are made from a steel alloy containing COBALT. It seems they are trying to reinvent the wheel. Most custom razor makers have a very good working knowledge of metallurgy and manipulate the materials molecular structure to make a more durable edge.

There are already very fine steels, some found on even on vintage ebay specials. IMO, its just another marketing ploy to sell a product that really isn't needed.

Originally Posted by Lt.Arclight

If its titanium nitride, all it is , is a ceramic coating. Short of being familiar with industrial tooling,most people see it on drill bits. Its REALLY hard-something like 85 Rockwell. Which would be a true B&^%H to hone.

Then since it would be practically impossible to make the coating PERFECTLY uniform, you would wear through some and still have coating on what's left of the edge-then the hone would wear the edge unevenly.

It really does'nt work on drill bits-other than for non-professional use.The coating wears off,almost immediately . Most very high end drills are made from a steel alloy containing COBALT. It seems they are trying to reinvent the wheel. Most custom razor makers have a very good working knowledge of metallurgy and manipulate the materials molecular structure to make a more durable edge.

There are already very fine steels, some found on even on vintage ebay specials. IMO, its just another marketing ploy to sell a product that really isn't needed.

This is very true IME as a welder/machinest the best tool's for an experienced hand are cobalt, and the reason i say experienced is they DO NOT like to flex. If you use one and flex the bit its going to shatter wich is why super hard materials arent good for razors. Yes hair is small and easy to cut but the fine edge of a razor is equally small and if it cant flex even infantesmaly it will break, remember that all things that dont bend break. On the same turn you dont want the edge basicly moving out of the way of the hair. Wich im guessing is why the stated razor while sharp wont cut. The metal is to maliable and just dances around the hair. i may not be an experienced bladesmith but as a third gen, metal worker i know metal like most people know there kids lol

Originally Posted by keljian

what would it chip on? hairs?

Indeed.

Even with carbon steel razors, which aren't nearly as brittle as diamond, you can see under magnification, how one shave can deteriorate the edge with micro nicks, if you'd make that edge too thin (being obsessed with the keenest possible razor). It really depends much on the razor how far you can push a razor in the sharpness envelope. I believe a diamond cutting edge would hit that barrier of brittleness sooner than a steel one would. Razor makers choose their hardening and tempering parameters with great care. They DON'T want the hardest possible steel, for reasons stated above. With diamond, one cannot influence the hardness/sturdiness ratio.

But wait, I have a better idea. Why not attach a bunch of small stainless blades to a circular plate, and connect that to the shaft of a small electro motor. Such device would make shaving that much easier. You just plug it in every morning and shave away. Technology rules! (I believe I'm going to start checking for a patent right away)

Bart.

Originally Posted by Bart

Indeed.



But wait, I have a better idea. Why not attach a bunch of small stainless blades to a circular plate, and connect that to the shaft of a small electro motor. Such device would make shaving that much easier. You just plug it in every morning and shave away. Technology rules! (I believe I'm going to start checking for a patent right away)

Bart.

I don't think i like that idea....i like to keep atleast a LITTLE bit of skin on my face